MasterCheese

@Flats_OW "Misinterprets original info" Literally what she said about beauty standards in the video when nobody was complaining about her being attrative at all just that she didnt look like anran

- Misinterprets original info - gets mad at it - moves onto the next Chudster story - see’s the face change is done - misremembers original misinterpreted info - omg she’s hotter! 😂 - wokesters must have gotten owned! The circle of chud

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow I mean..rank does matter when talking about the way heroes work and their kits. saying it doesnt? really? Then ig why listen to the high rank players about the balance like thats jsut wrong its just actually insane. Rank most definelty means you understand these things lmao

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow Don’t care to share, ‘nor does your own rank change my opinion on anything said. Nothing I said about Moira was wrong either. Her util / kit is probably one of the worst, but it’s still util that pretty much requires both damaging and healing

Good thing they're not healers

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow Gotta know what rank are you cause after all this im telling you as a gm top 200 player and you can see the sc n the post but like what rank are you cause the whole moira bit really made me question

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow Which is still objectively wrong, but alright

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow Alright were not getting anywhere so last bit: A supports primary job is to keep their team healthy not healbots but also not to the point were you neglect your team. You can do more than just healing never said you couldnt all i said was healing is your main obj and thats all

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow Re-read my comment. This is either your poor attempt at ragebait or you’ve just got your head that far in the clouds. The main job of a support / strategist has and always will be to support your team, through healing AND everything else I’ve already said

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow Her only utility is being able to survive. Thats it her orbs have close to no impact. Thats why theyve been trying to rework her and make her useful cause even the devs know shes no utility so what youre saying rn is wrong when the devs themselves aknwoledge her lack of utility

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow Her orbs and fade are still considered utility, worse than other supports or not. If all she had to offer was raw healing however, she wouldn’t have a resource meter that requires her to do damage to refill it. Not saying she’s a good support, but that’s her utility/kit

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow No you said healing is a part of their kit not their primary job which it is. In that order thats your main job Heal the team keep them alive help the team with your kit in that order

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow Notice how that’s no different from what I just said?

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow In any game in any context from the age of stone as a support your role has always and will always be primarly to keep their team healthy thats not an opinion or a hot take thats the role You can do other stuff with your kit but your main job is to heal the team

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow A support’s primary job is to support their team. Whether that be through keeping them healthy, enhancing their damage, allowing them to move faster, etc.

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow A support’s primary job is to keep their team healthy AND get value from the utility in your kit

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow Hey so, speeding and cleansing also help keep your team alive. Same with damage boost since it allows your team to output more damage than the enemy. Healing is only one part of what allows a support to do that. Why is that so hard to understand?

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow Dude i play moira i got to gm 1 playing moira shes the least impactful supp with 0 utility in the game, she has nothing to offer besides raw healing and an ok survivavility besides that shes just alot of healing numbers and thats about it, hence why shes terrible the higher u go

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow A support’s utility and their kit are the same thing. Every character has one, and Moira’s involves what should be a relatively equal amount of healing and doing damage

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow A support’s primary job is to keep their team healthy that is not a hot take thats your number 1 job and priority

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow Can’t see how I fell for anything. It can be used for healing but again, there’s a reason it can be used to do something outside of healing. It’s situational but further proves that a support’s job falls much further than just healing

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow How do you support the best? Oh yea by healing the team and keeping them alive not by speeding them or cleansing them thats part of the kit but you mainly support the team by healing them and keeping them in the fight alive. why is that so hard to understand

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow A support’s main job is to, as the name suggests, support. Whether that be through healing, enhancing your team’s speed or damage, or doing the damage yourself. Which, guess what? Involves a lot more than healing

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow Yes i brought it first and YOU decided to use her as an example for utility lmao thats the point. i brought her up as a perfect example of a supp that brings nothing besides that and you use her as a point for utility like cmon its getting goofy now, Moira? Utility?

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow It’s almost like having to do damage to replenish your healing meter just further shows that supports are designed to do much more than heal. Do you recall that you brought up Moira first, by the way?

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow Exactly my point i mentioned nade for that exact reason and u fell for it. Its used as anti why do people use it for healing then? Oh right cause you choose between them depending in your situation otherwise why even use it for healing right? same as suzu same as amp same as nade

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow The best use of suzu is to cleanse, hence why it’s my chosen example. Doesn’t matter that it’s used for healing a lot of times, because that’s still not the only or what should be the main use. You also mention nade as if it’s not better used for the anti too lmao

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow YES thats your role to heal the team keep them alive Is your whole job as a tank to just create space?No its your main job, you can also get kills but your main job as a tank is to Create space just lke supps can do other stuff but their main job is to keep the team alive

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow “Your job is TO HEAL you are a HEALER.” You state that as if it’s their ONLY job. Notice how that equates to saying they should primarily healbot? But again, main job still isn’t to heal, even for main healers. It just means they should be doing more healing than their other supp

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow Omg no way youre trying to defend that youre actually contradicting yourself so hard rn its kinda funny ngl. Moira out of any hero you chose to talk about utility lmao she brings nothing besides healing, you HAVE to do dmg to get your resource so u can heal more

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow “Whole kit is raw healing raw dmg.” Oh my gosh! So only half the kit is for healing while the other’s for damage (and fade for survivability)? Almost like that further proves my point! o:

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow OOF you couldnt have used a worse example than suzu, you do know alot of times its used for healing right? People use suzu even if theres nothing to cleanse to heal the team most of the times if theyre low and close together even if nothing needs cleansing same as nade

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow No, they aren’t because again, every kit includes more than healing. For both supports in OW and strategists in MR. A decent chunk of abilities can heal, sure but even an ability like suzu is primarily/best used for cleansing rather than direct healing

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow Notice how you cant point where i said supports are healbots? Because i, you know didnt? Kinda crazy!! Again if you cant read that i never said theyre healbots and only that their main job is to heal especially as a main healer like Moira,Ana,Bap

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow Notice how you can’t point out where I said that you can win easily without healing? Because I, you know, didn’t? Kinda crazy! Also, listing all those abilities is simply showing that every support’s kit/best use goes past healing. Hence why the role is, again, called support

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow Yea your main job as a supp is to heal thats your role simple as that. The name? you prob think strategist arent healers either. Yes if its more than just healing why does the majority of their abilities heal?hmm i mean someone like moira whole kit is raw healing raw dmg.

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow Exactly! Notice how that means a support’s job is not just to heal and you know, is not called a healer for that reason? Completely invalidating your original comment? You’ll also get that it’s about so much more than healing, hence my original small part comment.

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow "Healing is only a small part" So if its a small part then you could win pretty easily without it no?oh wait thats not how that works. You mentioned all those abilities like its 1 hero. Theres a reason theres main healers and off healers just as there was main and off tanks

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow Now, please. Do me a favor and point out where I said healing is something you should be able to win without and not that healing is simply not even close to the only part of any support’s kit? Or admit that you have to reach this hard to try and prove your moot point?

@Reluctant_Raven @Melodyy_ow Im using your own logic here see how it sounds,And again when did i say supports should healbot? point it out for me rq so let me explain in a way youll understand your role as a supp is to heal as your main part not healbot but Heal and do dmg you can do both ik crazy

@MasterCheese12 @Melodyy_ow Ah, I see. Let me try to explain in a way you’ll actually understand. Healing is a small part in the sense that it’s almost never the best part of a support’s kit and that every support has utility to use, rather than healbotting like you seem to think supports should.