RealFish
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RealFish
@RealFish
Degenerate Gambler | Car Enthusiast | I giveaway money for a living https://t.co/biVcdOWLdt https://t.co/NEr2F6FaAQ




The current state of the gambling industry marketing is VERY confusing. (A thread) Uploading this not as a hate or a disrespect post, purely to try to gain knowledge and understand wtf this industry is becoming. A popular streamer @tivuhhhh , recently got 2 of the most popular gambling site partnerships out there, Shuffle and Packdraw. Now you're probably thinking to yourself, she must have good stats, a lot of views, and a high amount of conversions to make this happen. Now I'm not saying she doesn't, but the deals she got for her metrics do not make ANY sense for the casinos, they are guaranteed to lose money on her. From what I know, she opened up about having a $7,000 Shuffle deal, with a sponsored LB, and just recently got with Packdraw, the biggest case unboxing site, deal undisclosed. Now again, this is not a hate post, I actually talked with Tiva, and she told me she got help through an agency with is great. I support her just like I support any other streamer, all the posts and comments about her is purely for entertainment, and she jokes around with it as well. I just seriously have NO CLUE, not even her specifically, let's take streamers as a whole into consideration, who had NO previous casino stats, averaging less than 20 views per stream, get 3 sponsorships from different sites, and a combined LB funding of more then $10,000 per month. Im making this post to try understand how in the FUCK marketing works in this niche, as someone who hasn't had a deal for around a month, even tho I get plenty of offers, they aren't even CLOSE to the amounts Im seeing people like Tiva get, the only difference is I got stats to show, previous experience with casinos, I dont bot my views, they aren't that high, but regardless of that, I know streamer with 10x the stats and views I got and they aswell can't get a hold of a deal ESPECIALLY with brand like Shuffle and Packdraw. This is just a callout, to marketing team agents, people who worked with casinos before, I'm just trying to get answers for me and others who are curious as well, how is it possible that this is a thing? If they spend all their budgets taking risks on streamers with no background no, fucking shit they won't be able to hire streamers that actually deserve it and are prepared to grind their life for it. Another reminder, this is NOT a hate post, I support Tiva, wish she even got a better deal than the one she currently has, but seriously, how the fuck can this happened? Casinos always bring previous stats, avg viewers, conversions, FTDs, and more into the conversation when negotiating a deal, and calculate a deal appropriately. How does it make sense to get a god damn $7,000 deal, with all the metrics mentioned above just not being taken into place, because if it were, in my opinion and from what I've seen talking to casinos before, it wouldn't even be a raw balance deal. That's all I'm trying to understand, and I'm sure others are as well. If you have answers, comment them, and PLEASE, do not hate on Tiva, she's a grinding streamer, and I support her journey just like I'm doing myself. This is NOT a HATE POST, I'm just interested in understanding how this works. Thank you for reading.























