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@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 That doesn’t matter it wasn’t there’s anymore

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 🤣What part of historically and ethnically do you not understand?

🧵 Was the Bombing of Dresden a War Crime? The Question That Still Divides History

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 You can’t just invade other countries and start killing people and expect no repercussions that’s childish

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 I already told you, you dumb fuck. That land was theirs historically. Britain couldve fucked off or helped negotiate. Germany was not just going to stand down and do what ever britain says. They had the right and a strong claim. Go learn for yourself

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 It that same frame of thinking then it was ok for the Allie’s to split Germany up post war right?

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Yes, you can. It was theirs, historically and mosty ethnically.

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Hiroshima and Nagasaki were important Japanese cities outside of there dense populations which was a reason for them but also there industry and harbors

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 I just think youre being a retard on purpose. Hiroshima - They wanted to maximize destruction. The city center where most civilians lived and worked was the target. Not targeting insustry areas

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 How though?

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Thats not fucking true. They can make very good estimates. You didnt read his book

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 You don’t get to just take back land like that they lost it, it wasn’t there’s and Poland didn’t need to give it to them

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Poland shut down an agreement that was in works after their leader, who was freinds with hitler, died. because britain stepped in and made an agreement with poland against germany. Germany was going to get its lands back. They didnt attack every country, they responded.

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Yes they did, they invaded Poland, they attacked every country they could including the Soviet Union and they never surrendered till it got to the worst point it ever got to

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 They didnt cause WW2, you retard. You dont listen

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 That’s the reality, with things so broad like “Christian deaths in the Soviet Union” it’s difficult to get exact numbers especially when they wouldn’t record that stuff during famines

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Yakovlev's book exists you can read it. Theres no counter evidence against it. Youre just being disingenuous

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 That’s not the same thing in any way lmao Nazi germany attacked and invaded other countries they had years to stop if they didn’t want war, and they never needed to invade Poland in the first place or anywhere before or after that

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Is a girl accountable for rape if she wears a short skirt? Is john kiriakou accountable for being in prison after whistleblowing about CIA torture?

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Still these numbers are not clear and never will be. Not enough was documented to give us a strong estimate yet

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Yakovlev wasn't a random dissident. he was a former Politburo member who helped create glasnost. He had access to archives no Western historian could touch . His book systematically breaks down victims by group, including clergy, peasants, and children

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 How? It’s called accountability

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Retard take

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 What? National socialism caused the holocaust and ww2 which killed nearly 100 million people

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 National socialism didnt kill. Shutting down peace negotiations, zoinists blocking transfer of jews to uganda(they wanted palestine), and lying to get countries involved killed people.

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Similar to Dresden Hiroshima and Nagasaki had vital industrial and shipping areas

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 -in Katyn, The Soviets murdered at least 22,000 Polish officers in and blamed the Nazis - Hiroshima and Nagasaki 246,000 immediate deaths, not including radation and starvation. They were cities chosen to maximize civilian casualties for psychological/political impact.

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Claims for death tolls in the Soviet Union are vey broad from 22 million to 80 million, 60 million is just another number with little backing

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 The 60 million number comes from a credible, primary source - Alexander Yakovlev, the Soviet official who helped design perestroika and had privileged access to closed Party and Presidential archives after the USSR collapsed. You know what number isnt real? 6 mil jews

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 The only people to blame for Germanys destruction are the Germans and it’s government during that time

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 So no, they were not fair acts, we just won and pushed propaganda. No, Allies and USSR destroyed Germany. They didnt steal land they took their land back.

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 That 60 million number isn’t real

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 -No, scholarly consensus is 3.5 to 5 million dead in Ukraine alone - very conservative -60 million christians were killed during the Soviet years, with millions more dying of forced starvation -1.5 to 1.7 million prisoners died in gulags(Golfo Alexopoulos argues around 6)

@Liverpoolxpress @ggytommy @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Those together may have caused a lot of death but with things like the great famine and the holdomor which are the same thing that is a very different thing the. Systematic murder or war

@Sledgehamhit @ggytommy @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Communist have killed more than National Socialism. Even before WW2 Communist scum killed more than National Socialists ever did, you forget about The Red Terror? The Great Famine? Holodomor? The Gulags?

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Holodomor was only a million or two gulags are completely different and Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Dresden were all fair acts of war also Hitler destroyed Germany he caused the war he attacked other nations, stole land, murdered millions

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 I just proved he did make it great. Allies and russia destroyed germany. You dont blame someone for standing up for themselves then getting ganged up on. Allies and russia killed way more like with dresden, nagasaki, hiroshima, gulags, and holodomor.

@Liverpoolxpress @ggytommy @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Communist hadn’t killed more at the time and even then it never reached those numbers in the Soviet Union

@Sledgehamhit @ggytommy @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 Communists killed more and yet the Shill Churchill and the Americans backed the Soviets, Commnuism still kills today.

@ggytommy @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 They attacked other people and lied

@Sledgehamhit @Liverpoolxpress @jfw__69 @VoicesofWW2 No right to? 🤣 They stood up for themselves, and they had every right too. Its national survival. because they got screwed by the west and the banks