Chris McCoy

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The Jensen Huang episode. 0:00:00 – Is Nvidia’s biggest moat its grip on scarce supply chains? 0:16:25 – Will TPUs break Nvidia’s hold on AI compute? 0:41:06 – Why doesn’t Nvidia become a hyperscaler? 0:57:36 – Should we be selling AI chips to China? 1:35:06 – Why doesn’t Nvidia make multiple different chip architectures? Look up Dwarkesh Podcast on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, etc. Enjoy!

Much of Dwarkesh's argument hinges on this statment which *was* accurate but will be increasingly inaccurate on a go forward basis imo:    “American labs port across accelerators constantly. Anthropic's models are run on GPUs, they're run on Trainium, they're run on TPUs. There are so many things you can do, from distilling to a model that's well fit for your chips.”   As system level architectures diverge (torus vs. switched scale-up topologies, memory hierarchies, networking primitives), true portability is eroding. The Mi300 and Mi325 had roughly the same scale-up domain size as Hopper while Blackwell’s scale-up domain is 9x larger than the Mi355 scale-up domain, etc. Many frontier models are now being explicitly co-designed for inference on specific hardware like GB300 racks. Codex on Cerebras is another example. Those models run less efficiently on other systems and the performance differentials will only widen. A model that runs well on Google’s torus topology will run less efficiently on Nvidia’s switched scale-up topology and vice versa - the data traffic is fundamentally different as a byproduct of the models being parallelized across the different topologies. Google’s internal teams - and increasingly the Anthropic teams as they become the most important customer of almost every cloud - have the luxury of operating across the stack (models, chips, networking) - but that is not the case for the rest of the market and other prospective users. Anthropic is the exception, not the rule. To wit, Anthropic and Google allegedly have a mutual understanding where Anthropic can hire the TPU engineers they need every year to ensure that they can continue to get the most out of the TPU. Given the overwhelming importance of cost per token to the economics of the labs, models will be run where they run best. Most extremely large MoE models will run best on GB300s given the importance of having a switched scale-up network like NVLink for MoE inference. When training was the dominant cost for labs and power was broadly available, labs were optimizing to minimize capex dollars. Model portability was a way to create leverage over suppliers. I think that drove a lot of the focus on portability. Today, inference costs as measured by tokens per watt per dollar are everything. Inference is way more important than training costs (inference is effectively now part of training via RL). Labs are therefore now optimizing for inference. This means increasing co-design and higher go-forward switching costs for individual models between systems. I do think this explains why Anthropic and Nvidia came together: Anthropic needed Blackwells and Rubins to inference at least *some* of their models economically. And Mythos might just end up being released coincident with the availability of Rubins for inference. TLDR: as labs shift their focus from training to inference, the costs of portability and the upside of co-design to maximize tokens per watt per dollar both rise. Portability is likely to begin decreasing as a result.   I think what I might have respectfully added to Jensen’s answer is that systems evolve under local selective pressures. The evolutionary pressure in America is a shortage of watts so it makes sense for Nvidia to optimize, as an American company, for power efficiency and tokens per watt and stay on copper as long as possible. China has a surfeit of watts. Chinese AI systems are already taking advantage of this with the Huawei Cloudmatrix 384 and Atlas SuperPoD having an optical scale-up domain that is much larger than anything offered by Nvidia today at the cost of *much* higher power consumption and much lower tokens per watt. The networking primitives for this Huawei system are very different than those for Nvidia’s systems and a model that runs well on Nvidia will not run well on that system and vice versa. This means that if a Chinese ecosystem gets momentum, Chinese models might stop running well on American hardware. And when Chinese models run best on American hardware, America is in a better position as this gives America a degree of leverage and control over Chinese AI that it risks losing to an all-Chinese alternative ecosystem.   This architectural fork makes porting and distillation less effective and strengthens the pro-American national security case for selling China deprecated GPUs imo. Also I will attest that I did not wake up a loser this morning.

The Jensen Huang episode. 0:00:00 – Is Nvidia’s biggest moat its grip on scarce supply chains? 0:16:25 – Will TPUs break Nvidia’s hold on AI compute? 0:41:06 – Why doesn’t Nvidia become a hyperscaler? 0:57:36 – Should we be selling AI chips to China? 1:35:06 – Why doesn’t Nvidia make multiple different chip architectures? Look up Dwarkesh Podcast on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, etc. Enjoy!

Khanna: They’re saying this technology is going to be bigger than nuclear, bigger than electricity, bigger than aviation. Last I checked, we have an FAA for aviation, nuclear energy is regulated, and electricity is regulated.  So you’re telling me on one hand that this is going to be bigger, and then you’re saying you don’t want any regulation. I mean, it makes no sense.

California is trying to pass a bill that would criminalize investigative journalism with misdemeanors, $10,000 fines, imprisonment, and content takedown. The proposed bill is titled AB 2624 and was made after I exposed mass fraud by immigrant groups in America. Under AB 2624, government-funded entities like the Somali “Learing” Daycare centers would be protected from being exposed if they operated inside California. The enemy truly is within. When our politicians would rather protect fraudsters and illegal migrants, it’s time for us to stand up or face mass oppression from the traitors who “rule” over us.