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가입일 Ekim 2022
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@Malabari_1 And from the perspective of the public, there isn’t any material, audio, video, or letter proving that Baghdadi, or Abu Hamza, or Omar al Baghdadi pledged allegiance to AQ. What we have is exactly the contrary, this is why I don't believe this narrative. 3/3
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@Malabari_1 From their perspective, there was no binding allegiance, it was out of “reverence” only, they were not obligated to obey Zawahiri orders. 2/3
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@Malabari_1 Zawahiri himself claimed years before the dispute with ISI that ISI was basically like the Taliban&Caucasus Emirate,an independent group. Why go as far as claiming ISI was the same as the Taliban if Abu Hamza had a secret bay‘ah to AQ (not backed by any material) at the time? 3/3
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@Malabari_1 The letters that can be found in Abbottabad were basically AQ giving advice to ISI, the rest are Zawahiri’s claims, which are not backed by material evidence that can be found in the Abbottabad letters. 2/3
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@plotsaumon My narrative is backed by material evidence and by Julani’s own claims, it’s pure facts. Only people who were 10 years old when this conflict happened or didn’t study it can claim that Jabhat al nusra was independent from ISI.
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@Malabari_1 4. Adam Gadhan himself was saying that ISI was created without AQ consultation & that ISI was only labeled as AQ, and that the link between ISI and AQ was only a link of "faith and islam".
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@Malabari_1 3. ISI leaders did not consider themselves an AQ branch, they revered AQ, thus why they sent these letters to Zawahiri, and we're speaking to him as if they were speaking to their leader, but there's no material proof showing they had an allegiance to AQ.
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@plotsaumon Julani did not have any allegiance to AQ before the split with ISI, and he admitted that he pledged allegiance to AQ in order to free himself from Baghdadi, and not because he genuinely believed in the AQ project. ISI was never an AQ branch. 3/3
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@plotsaumon Jabhat al Nusra was not independent from ISI, it was created and entirely financed by ISIS, with half the treasury of ISI as per Baghdadi AND Julani, it was an ISIS front group from the get go. 2/3
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@skotrds @AnalyticaCamil1 No, I’m specifically talking about iraq. You and the other guy claimed that Baghdadi was more brutal in comparison to his predecessors in ISI, AQI/JTJ. I proved that this is false, that they were pretty much the same and had the same policy, end of the story.
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@VAWIOP @AnalyticaCamil1 Al Qaeda right; a pan-Jihadist organization that had operations in Afghanistan; of which AQI was a branch - so if you are talking about AQ doctrine... and AQ positions on things; and outliers like Zarqawi and Khalid -- and then the schism of Baghdadi...
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