@Envoyofpain @Bazzer360 the point of a survival game is survival, not killing
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billy
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@Bazzer360 I mean my only real complaint, is its not truly a survival game at that point, I'm enjoying the game, and if they don't want to allow players to kill, that's fine, but it kind of misses the point of a "survival" game
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@tulsidaskhan170 @inahpipe @theashleyray he's not a water powered superhero???? he can breathe underwater and talk to fish, but he is not stronger just bc they're by a beach. He can't attack her with the water, and even if he wasn't on bad terms with all fish, they still can't reach her unless she's in the water
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@inahpipe @theashleyray i'm not going to discuss whether she should've killed him or not but taking a water powered superhero near a water body when youre fighting him is just plain dumb.
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starlight didn't know he had beef with the sea creatures so taking him to a beach to fight was dumb af
The Boys Out of Context Clips@TheBoysOOCC
How do you feel about The Deeps fate? #TheBoys
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@papalone55 @Sceneric0 it's the same people that wanna kill fictional fish that are shooting up places of worship
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@Sceneric0 You and the boys planning which church to g*n down in cold blood but don't you dare hurt a video game fish. The irony is not lost on me.
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This genuinely turns my stomach like what do you mean you're just killing them for the fun of it. The game has built in mechanics that let you deter these things. You don't need to kill those animals when you have no real reason to.
PC Gamer@pcgamer
Subnautica 2 mod lets you kill all the fish you want 🪼 Mod: jibotron Submit your best clip for a chance to win $500! pcgamer.com/clips/?utm_sou… #Subnautica2 #pcgamerclips
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@squirtkipfan01 People gave feedback
Feedback got ignored. (Remember this part)
People want to play their way.
Other people are mad that someone modded the game because they got ignored.
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you say "its fictional fish who cares"
i say the fact you went out of your way to create and then use a mod in a game where the devs bluntly said that they did not want players killing anything, to kill things in the game says an awfully lot about you as a person
No respect
PC Gamer@pcgamer
Subnautica 2 mod lets you kill all the fish you want 🪼 Mod: jibotron Submit your best clip for a chance to win $500! pcgamer.com/clips/?utm_sou… #Subnautica2 #pcgamerclips
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@Skimbeeble12 @Kalebjayboss "key gameplay mechanic" and it's wasting ridiculous amounts of time hitting an enemy 700 times while they're stuck on terrain
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@Kalebjayboss "Why did you remove a key gameplay mechanic that's been in both previous games?"
"If you're such a sociopath and just want violence, why don't you play The Forest so you can chop up cannibals."
Perfectly reasonable response. 100%
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This is why I think developers should be meaner. The fact a simple interaction about the artistic direction of a game spiralled into a controversy because of the fragile entitlement of gamers and grifters is why I think developers should be assholes honestly
frostzy@lmkifiwin
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO SUBNAUTICA 2.. > be Subnautica 2 developers > player politely asks why you can’t kill most creatures > level designer snaps back: "This is not a killing game, go play Sons of the Forest if you want violence" > another dev adds that big creatures will stay safe because "the game should feel right" The first Subnautica let you stab leviathans with a knife. Now they want you to peacefully coexist with 50-meter monsters like it’s a underwater yoga class. Why do developers treat their most loyal fans like this? Why can’t they just answer normally without being condescending and aggressive? Loyal players are the ones who supported you for years. If you keep talking down to them, they’ll simply stop playing. And in the end, you - the developers - will be the ones who lose the most. Peak "go touch grass" energy in 2026. You think this approach will help the game long-term or are we watching it slowly die?
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@operationbruh @JGDarhk are you going to provide an example? where are the (new) killer second chance perks
where's most of the killer meta actually rewarding the killer for losing
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This is 100% true...1 mistake or too long of 1 chase can literally cost you the game as Killer...meanwhile on Survivor I can literally make mistake after mistake and still have a better chance at making it out just because of the perks I bring
Ash@Ashhlo_
The reason why I put down dbd for awhile is because there’s no room to learn killer. Making one or two mistakes as killer is so punishing now to where you barely get in practice chases bc the match snowballs so hard for the mistake
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@Justaguyinamask @DaftBoy06 @seineyt_ acting like they aren't nerfing fast track bc of perma progress and it being too strong
and bnp is definitely stronger for gen repair than deja vu is before you get into the fact that what bnp does to a generator can't be undone
deja vu is definitely not a problem
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@billy4389 @DaftBoy06 @seineyt_ Yes it is lmao. The only perma progress thing I see anymore is BNP and that’s it. Hyperfocus, Stakeout, Déjà vu are still my most commonly seen perks. So gen speeds are indeed still an issue
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Was saying this during the entire PTB to live server transition, and I couldn’t agree more. All Diminishing Returns has done is eliminated build variety even more than it was before, and hasn’t really fixed many problems imo. Quite a shame.
Otzdarva@OtzdarvaYT
I never loved the idea of generalized diminishing returns but going over every perk individually has really reinforced the notion that this idea is really gonna result in far less build variety, not more.
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@Justaguyinamask @DaftBoy06 @seineyt_ bc actual repair speed is not the problem
they're not stacking toolboxes and running prove thyself or perks that actually boost repair speed
it's specifically things that allow them to reduce the required charges that are causing problems
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@billy4389 @DaftBoy06 @seineyt_ How so? If you have less charges, by principle the time to complete the gen gets cut. Therefore making the completion speed faster
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@billy4389 @JGDarhk id love to hear some, bc by that logic, killers have gotten that too lol
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@AJLikesGames_ @theclowndbdwife it wasn't a complaint and that's obvious to anyone with a functioning brain
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@billy4389 @theclowndbdwife It was obviously a complaint about decisive. Why are you acting slow?
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not only does vigil kill 90% of perks for killers but also status effects for killer powers too... like Clown, Freddy, Neme whip, any addon that gives hem and mangled and so on. vigil needs a rework or to be removed entirely.
Soma@somanotsterben
@OtzdarvaYT Vigil having to be its own reason alone is deeply concerning 😭
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@AJLikesGames_ @theclowndbdwife because you somehow read some part of that as a complaint instead of just someone posting a clip, proving yourself to be stupid
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@billy4389 @theclowndbdwife What is this meant to prove besides you're a crybaby killer main lol
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@thatbootylatino @prion_tv most players have a preference for one side or the other moron it's not that deep
someone who mostly plays killer is going to have more of an opinion on which survivor perks feel bad to go against
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@prion_tv calling out balance issues is fine. the problem is you constantly talk about survivor perks like they’re ruining the game while ignoring killer stuff and playing sweaty yourself. you can’t tunnel, run meta killer perks, then act shocked when people see the bias
GIF
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I don’t understand this mindset when it comes to creators calling out unbalanced perks, maps, killers, etc.
There is a huge difference between
“Hey shoulder the burden needs a huge nerf or rework”
and
“Stupid devs don’t play their own game I hate them they can’t balance for shit”
If you are getting mad at the former at this point I have to assume you’re just mad I’m trying to get your free win perk changed
zzzz@thatbootylatino
@prion_tv holy, do you ever quit bitching??
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@AJLikesGames_ @theclowndbdwife mad cuz I'm right and you're too stupid to understand
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@AJLikesGames_ @theclowndbdwife oh i just saw you in comments somewhere else you're just actually mentally handicapped so I'm not gonna waste my time here anymore
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@billy4389 @theclowndbdwife Or maybe its because they want to see the resources they can go too? Lmfao
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@operationbruh @JGDarhk lol
the game has been adding more and more stuff to protect survivors from their own mistakes
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@AJLikesGames_ @theclowndbdwife so they can predrop and move on, yeah, not actually loop
have you ever faced the average windows player? or had one on your team
you're either insane or lying to yourself if you think the average survivor player actually knows what they're doing
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@billy4389 @DaftBoy06 @seineyt_ So… Gen speeds are a problem? Less charges= faster gens due to less time spent on them
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@AJLikesGames_ @theclowndbdwife if you've ever played soloq survivor or any amount of killer matches you've seen the average windows player at work
windows isn't the most used perk because people know how to loop, it's because they don't want to have to learn how to
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@billy4389 @theclowndbdwife All im reading is you desperately trying to do mental gymnastics as to why windows is apparently bad and not used because its a good perk to have. Lol
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@AJLikesGames_ @theclowndbdwife want to escape
that's the player that the pallet density changes catered towards because bhvr has to hold their hands or else they'll stop playing the game
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@AJLikesGames_ @theclowndbdwife because the vast majority of windows players are not actually thinking about the information it gets them
99% of windows users are running to yellow and predropping, hence "playing the game as little as possible"
they don't want to think, they don't want to get better, they just
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