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@G1959Gary @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr In what situation?

@drifter104 @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr So given all that what is the maximum you could get?

Under Labour, someone WORKING on £35k salary is £1,400 worse off But someone NOT working with 3+ kids could get £81k a year of benefits This is becoming a DISGRACE Rewarded for not working & PUNISHED for working harder for less

@Maloogastwin Show me what cheap utilities someone on UC can get

@drifter104 IQ 85 detected. Either that or you're just not doing the dole in the right way because you're IQ75?

This is a straight up lie One million people in benefits are better off than a person working full time on the living wage

@Maloogastwin @Cerberusbite83 @sophielouisecc You don't know Jack. Council tax discount is totally separate and varies Council by council. The only utility that "cheaper" is water but loads of people not on benefits qualify for that too. No free legal advice or dentists and everyone gets free health care

@Cerberusbite83 @sophielouisecc True, but we know for a fact the minimum. We also know all the other freebees amount to thousands a year. Cheaper utilities, no council tax, completely free healthcare and dentistry. Access to free legal advice and a career path to PIP and Motability cars!

@sophielouisecc Nope. If you compare 2 identical families there the only difference is one working one not. The working one better off. Income is deducted at 55p for every £1 earnt

@G1959Gary @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr Also carers allowance is deducted £ for £ from UC as it is treated as income. The replacement carers element isn't the same amount

@G1959Gary @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr Grok doesn't understand that to get dla you need to be able to provide 35hrs of care a week, but get pip number you need be on highest level pip & get the mobility amount. Basically you can't get both at the highest levels as one contradicts the othet

@yarwoodwilliam It isn't. We need family friendly policies to encourage more children. That is the only way the ever increasing pension burden will be covered

The welfare bill is set to be £406bn by the end of this decade. For some context, £406 billion is equivalent to the lifetime taxes of about 317,800 households. Total government expenditure is projected to hit over £1.5trillion, meaning 25.1% of all public spending will be swallowed by welfare by the end of this Parliament. Debt meanwhile is projected to stand at approximately £3.5 trillion by the end of the decade with hundreds of billions to be spent on debt interest alone. Meanwhile, the tax burden is projected to exceed 37% of GDP or reach 38% of national income by the end of the decade breaking the post-war record. I challenge anyone to explain to me how any of this is sustainable.

@G1959Gary @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr Let's say they can though. You do understand that a family entitled to 81k could then earn 30k on top and keep most of those benefits right

@G1959Gary @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr They can't. People have taken a number which had words in front of it that made the number mean one thing and changed words to make mean something else.

@JamesCarly98971 @BenGrahamUK @RachelReevesMP Except outgoing don't exceed income

@BenGrahamUK For God's sake,will someone get @RachelReevesMP from accounts a calculator, and explain if your outgoings exceed your income you will be broke. Oh and it's not your fucking money!

The UK has crossed a line. Welfare spending: £333 billion Income tax revenue: £331 billion We’re now paying out more than we bring in from workers. This is unsustainable.

@KEdge23 Now you have to decide, enough to eat or place to live? Which one you picking?

@KEdge23 So you have 3 children, you're on 70k a year. You don't get any help. You fall at work, bust your leg, months of rehab ahead but at least the gov will help with enough to make sure you can still afford your rent and to not starve. Oh wait you have 3 kids.

What’s so controversial about expecting parents to feed and pay for their own children? Benefits should be capped at two children. The two-child benefit cap was fair. It’s unfair on taxpayers that Labour have scrapped it. There goes £3 billion a year we can’t afford.

@G1959Gary @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr You completely missed the point here. This is all in response to the article saying you need to earn 71k. An article in which it compares a working 2 + 2 with a non working 2 + 3 with a child with disability. I'm pointing out that if you make them the same it's very different

@drifter104 @JordanC25253124 @EssexgoonerMr People who work don’t tend to claim any disability benefits and definitely don’t have 3 or more kids unless they can afford it

@JordanC25253124 @Marco_mmabjj @EssexgoonerMr You can't talk about a figure that includes pensioners and then say don't talk about pensioners? The 334bn includes pensions. It's irrelevant because I support the bill either way.

@drifter104 @Marco_mmabjj @EssexgoonerMr No, don't involve pensioners please they have paid in. My tax bill from last year says 10% pensions. 21% Welfare.

@JordanC25253124 @Marco_mmabjj @EssexgoonerMr Yes.... as roughly half it goes to pensioners. It will keep growing because we have an aging population.

@drifter104 @Marco_mmabjj @EssexgoonerMr I will look into it more deeply when I have time. But you still need to answer my question? Do you support this welfare bill, regardless of what people get? The total bill just is simply not sustainable. It has continued to be the biggest single hole in this countries economy.

@Marco_mmabjj @EssexgoonerMr Ok but still nowhere near 81k. Keep reaching.

@drifter104 @EssexgoonerMr And I know someone with 3 kids who get all rent (2300 ) paid

@Marco_mmabjj @EssexgoonerMr That's "children" not child. When you say child = 10k, thats saying a child gets you 10k. Also still nowhere near 81k

@drifter104 @EssexgoonerMr 3 child = 10k

@Col00156481 @Marco_mmabjj @EssexgoonerMr No rent is included in UC. No one gets a free car, they lose the mobility element. No one gets free food. No one gets free energy. Everyone gets free healthcare.

@drifter104 @Marco_mmabjj @EssexgoonerMr Ad on free rent of a property in central London £2k a month some places will be double, plus free energy, free food, free healthcare, free dentist & opticians etc, free car, free taxi. All soon adds up to a lot of money paid for by UK taxpayers

@JordanC25253124 @Marco_mmabjj @EssexgoonerMr By the way. Both versions had a single child with a disability. Combined 40k income. Yes 40k would still get you 2k to 2.5k in benefits. The code is there you can verify the results. Also. This is what actual proof looks like

@JordanC25253124 @Marco_mmabjj @EssexgoonerMr Here you go. 2+2 family compared to a 2+3 family. The only difference between the 2 calculations is adding a child. When you use your brain, even just a little you can disprove so many lies