freaky Caliphate

@DBZdaily_ Z > super > dbs > broly > hero

Which art style looks the best on Goku ?

@starryvira @POOHEADZ189 Besides female characters in popular shounen, nobody thinks like that.

believing that a character being stronger also means they're better written is just a crazy way to engage with media 😭 i can't with shounen bros

@GalaxySoldier Cause it is. Has the better fights, better fan service, and the actual lore.

the fact that the overwhelming opinion is that second coming is worse than the first broly movie makes me think dragon ball fans don't deserve anything good ever

@Tilted_FN @OnyxBarbour @DBZdaily_ No it doesn’t. Goku never takes responsibility for the saiyans actions and largely ignores Frieza’s taunt. Goku doesn’t care about the saiyans or wants revenge for them, he just wants to kill Frieza for being a scumbag and Krillin. Did you read the scan?

@freakycaliphate @OnyxBarbour @DBZdaily_ Making Goku too heroic? Lmao sure thing man. Yet it basically says the same thing as the manga. Goku tells Frieza that it's HIS turn to die, that the Saiyans died because of their sins. You're coping, sorry to say.

Which version do you prefer?

@Tilted_FN @OnyxBarbour @DBZdaily_ The scene above is overinflated in Kai and once again makes the mistake of making Goku too heroic. Kai is accurate to the manga in editing and pacing but its dialogue is probably like 60-70% accurate in favor of rule of cool.

@freakycaliphate @OnyxBarbour @DBZdaily_ It's like 99 percent accurate. With changes actually being something not too far out of line with what the characters would say. Just additions to the story that are completely fine rather than absurd. Like Frieza calling himself a saint in comparisons to more destructive beings.

@GoofyLibra1432 @theplushgod @DBZdaily_ Bringing up his dub only tongue is a huge nitpick given how irrelevant it is. The comparison is unneeded dialogue for rule of cool. Once again, a Kai fans don’t read the manga or know what they are talking about.

@freakycaliphate @theplushgod @DBZdaily_ Yeah tell me more about how Friezas "language" the Z dub slop put out is in the manga. Oh wait. Many similar instances in that trash dub. And yeah Frieza is comparing himself by saying Goku's motivation is hypocritical. Again, READ 😂🫵🏽

@Tilted_FN @OnyxBarbour @DBZdaily_ No, it’s not. However Lazy to say the sub and Kai are 100 percent accurate to the manga when that just isn’t true. And then dunk on the dub and only the dub when the prior two have the issue too.

@freakycaliphate @OnyxBarbour @DBZdaily_ Yet it's still in character and is definitely something Frieza would say. When the OG Dub makes wild changes then it's okay I guess.

@GoofyLibra1432 @theplushgod @DBZdaily_ Notice how he never compares himself to them, not a single time. Maybe he’d say that to vegeta but not Goku. I don’t really care if you think I have “low reading comprehension”. You Kai fans don’t even read the manga

@freakycaliphate @theplushgod @DBZdaily_ "AWFULLY NOBLE, AREN'T YOU...?" "ARE YOU SAYING THE SAIYANS NEVER KILLED AN INNOCENT?" Another way of saying it's hypocritical to highlight their slaughter since they also slaughtered. Again, reading comprehension at an all time low 🥱

@Tilted_FN @OnyxBarbour @DBZdaily_ And the sub not being accurate to the manga at least regarding Goku is not out of the ordinary. Toriyama himself has complaints about anime Goku in a 2015 interview.

@freakycaliphate @OnyxBarbour @DBZdaily_ Why not? Frieza is actively trying to fuck with and Antagonize Goku here. His point was that the Saiyans were even more destructive than he was, which is actually true btw since their lives revolved around combat only. Jap version of that scene says "we" so Kai is accurate here.

@GoofyLibra1432 @theplushgod @DBZdaily_ Which he don’t say or do. He never says this in the manga and it’s only added in order to inflate the dialogue with Goku. Who mind you also takes that remark more seriously here than in the manga.

@freakycaliphate @theplushgod @DBZdaily_ He is mocking Goku with sarcasm, you can't be this dense lol

@Tilted_FN @OnyxBarbour @DBZdaily_ Ok but he wouldn’t call himself a saint though, even as a comparison. And he doesn’t make that comparison in the manga so that’s a Kai liberty they are making. Goku also doesn’t self insert himself into the price paid for the saiyans

@freakycaliphate @OnyxBarbour @DBZdaily_ I'm not misreading lmao. Frieza straw mans Goku here when that isn't what Goku said. The guy I was replying to tried to make it seem like Frieza in the Kai clip was making himself a good guy for killing the Saiyans. Which is..not what Frieza says?

@GoofyLibra1432 @theplushgod @DBZdaily_ He wouldn’t call himself a saint though, even as a comparison. He hates the concept of goodness itself as shown in super with his halo. You Kai fans are npc’s who probably haven’t even read the manga to confirm its accuracy.

@freakycaliphate @theplushgod @DBZdaily_ Your issue is lack of reading comprehension. Frieza doesn't see himself as a hero, he's saying it's hypocritical to bring it up in the first place

@GoofyLibra1432 @theplushgod @DBZdaily_ Manga Goku doesn’t self insert himself with the saiyans and largely doesn’t care about them. Frieza doesn’t see himself as a hero for killing them like in Kai, just taunting Goku. The funimation dub is indeed more accurate

@freakycaliphate @theplushgod @DBZdaily_ This just shoots yourself in the foot lmao. The kai version is much closer to the manga dialogue

@Its__chris567 @DBZdaily_ So did Kai in this specific scene. And outside of out of character lines in the frieza saga, funimation dub Goku is the same as the sub. He just has less cool lines.

@freakycaliphate @DBZdaily_ Funi mischaracterises goku

@Joshua398886 @DBZdaily_ Goku saying “we” in the Kai dub makes him sound like black people on tik tok saying they suffered slavery. That’s actually the corny one

@DBZdaily_ OG Dub just sounds so corny bruh...

@GoofyLibra1432 @theplushgod @DBZdaily_ It’s not, the funimation is actually way closer dialogue wise.

@theplushgod @DBZdaily_ It's closer to what the actual frieza said [in the manga]

@biondi_ped93186 @DBZdaily_ The dub is actually closer to the manga accidentally. Kai makes Goku insert himself into saiyan history and Frieza more “heroic” for lack of a better term.

@DBZdaily_ To be fair, the best is to watch the original, because classic Dub is deviates too much from the manga, and the Kai keep the manga dialogue, but folks say is worse. Again, better to watch JP, Classic and Kai are good.

@Tilted_FN @OnyxBarbour @DBZdaily_ And we know super has the accurate interpretation of frieza given Toriyama’s involvement after the flop of evolution.

@Tilted_FN @OnyxBarbour @DBZdaily_ You are the one who is misreading, frieza does not see himself as a good guy. Goodness itself irritates Frieza given his “hell” in super. The funimation dub is accidentally closer to the manga than Kai. Goku also doesn’t take responsibility