Jutter 𐤊τ

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Jutter 𐤊τ

Jutter 𐤊τ

@jutternuts

$TAO $KAS $QUBIC

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Mike Benz
Mike Benz@MikeBenzCyber·
She read "World War II" as "World War Eleven"
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Davinci Jeremie
Davinci Jeremie@Davincij15·
Lightning Network can process millions of transactions per second. Fees: fractions of a cent. Speed: instant. Bitcoin isn't slow. You're just using Layer 1 for everything. That's like complaining the highway is slow while ignoring the express lane.
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Tyler Bea
Tyler Bea@skibumtrading·
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Jutter 𐤊τ
Jutter 𐤊τ@jutternuts·
@_g_x_g @Justin_Bons Justin is a rage baiting hack. The Andrew Tate of crypto who’s always pissed off at something. Just replace the word inefficient or speculative or ponzi with the word gay and it’s him to a tee.
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Jutter 𐤊τ@jutternuts·
@CryptoAvex Justin just shits on everything. Imagine having conviction in nothing.
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Crypto Avex
Crypto Avex@CryptoAvex·
Hi Justin, Here is my detailed reply over your post on $TAO is a ponzi thread. I read your every word. Here’s where you are wrong.👇🏼 Claim 1: “$328M emissions vs $15M revenue = ponzi” Bitcoin generated $0 revenue for years. Ethereum’s early revenue didn’t justify its emissions either. Every L1 bootstraps with inflation. That’s not a ponzi, that’s protocol growth stage. The question is: does revenue trajectory justify the model? For $TAO, it does. Claim 2: “Chutes costs 3.5x more than Deepseek” Correct, today. But Deepseek is subsidized by Chinese state capital. Venice AI chose Bittensor ANYWAY. PwC France chose Bittensor ANYWAY. Why would sophisticated institutions pay MORE unless they’re getting something centralized providers can’t offer? Censorship resistance. Privacy. Unstoppable compute. Claim 3: “Subnet owners keep 100% revenue + 18% emissions = scam” This is literally how every startup ecosystem works. AWS builders keep their revenue too. App Store developers keep 70%. The emissions are venture capital in protocol form funding builders to create real products. BIT-0011 “Conviction Mechanism” literally just addressed operator accountability. Claim 4: “Validators taking 41% of rewards is inefficient” Validation IS the product in a trustless network. Ethereum validators take rewards too. You want decentralization without the cost of decentralization, that’s not how cryptography works. Claim 5: “No incentive for centralized orgs to use TAO” PwC France. SN44. 136 countries. 6-8 months legal due diligence. Venice AI Erik Voorhees. Subnet 4. Live right now. TAO Institute. Institutional-grade research. Launched this week. Grayscale ETF filing. Still active. You wrote this critique without doing complete homework !! The real conclusion: Every criticism in this thread applies equally to Ethereum in 2017. Low revenue. High inflation. Unproven utility. “Theatre.” ETH went from $8 → $4,800. You are not wrong about the risks. But you are just early on the wrong side. I am not here to fool anyone. I am here because I have done the work. And the work says: $TAO is early, not broken. 💎 Thank you for your attention to this matter! Regards, @CryptoAvex
Justin Bons@Justin_Bons

Bittensor is a crypto-ponzi; unsustainable nonsense! TAO has no utility or PMF; it is all driven by token inflation: $328M worth of new tokens are printed annually, yet only $15M in annual revenue was generated! Subsidies from holders pay for subnets; economically bankrupt: 🧵 Token inflation is used to give people the illusion of low cost. As the truth is that creating AI models in a "decentralized" way is far more expensive. While offering no additional utility or benefits It is all theatre; subnets are not created as competitive products. They are created simply to exist & extract as much value out of TAO investors as possible Ponzinomics & Extraction: For example, the Pine Analytics data proved that unsubsidized inference on the Chutes subnet would cost up to 3.5x as much as centralized competitors such as Deepseek or TogetherAI! What makes it all so much worse is that token holders pay for these subnets through inflation. Yet, none of the revenue actually flows back to the token holders. The subnet owners get to keep 100% of the revenue! On top of 18% of emissions, just because... That is a borderline scam, extremely profitable for subnet operators, but setting up token investors for extreme loss when the system inevitably collapses As TAO has a 21M supply limit, which might be appealing to ignorant token investors. But also implies that the network will entirely collapse, as it is fundamentally unsustainable, just like BTC Inefficient & Expensive: The problems run even deeper than that, as is the case with most DePin projects that rely on subsidies rather than real-world value accrual: The reason why decentralized computing is so inefficient is that it requires verification & replication. Within a trustless environment, we cannot simply trust the work done by individual nodes. Instead, the work must be replicated multiple times over, introducing extreme inefficiencies. This is not so bad for simple TX's, but for serious, large computing tasks, this becomes a deal breaker This is why 41% of the rewards go to "validators" whose sole task is to verify that the work being done is legitimate! This only adds to the massive inefficiency already introduced by latency within a distributed network. There are several good reasons why AIs are trained in massive data centers with cards equipped with extremely low-latency, high-bandwidth connections. Something TAO is unable to directly compete with in technical & economic terms Product Theatre: In some cases, it is worth paying a premium for decentralization; one example of this is decentralized storage However, this is not the case for the training of AI's, as this is a one-off cost usually carried out by a centralized for-profit organization. As running the AI itself is much cheaper & even achievable by individuals on a single consumer-grade machine... So, what is the incentive for this centralized organization to use a more expensive method? That does not even result in a commercially viable product, due to the lack of scale... The answer is that there is no legitimate incentive! As there are only so many people they can fool into such a ponzinomic scheme, creating an upper bound on the size these subnets can grow to, which is nowhere near what large centralized AI companies can achieve today Conclusion: There is no future in such a bankrupt design! It is all theatre to extract as much as possible; subnets are not created as competitive products. They are created simply to exist & to extract as much value out of token investors as possible! There is much I did not cover in this critique, including "decentralization theatre", modularity, bad governance, perverse incentives & terrible UX. This critique was purely economic, which is bad enough to reject TAO on that basis alone! As value investors, we have to avoid such nonsense. It is not only dangerous from an investment perspective, but it also harms the industry as a whole. The more we prop up nonsense like this, the more difficult it will be for outsiders to take our industry seriously That is why we must speak out, as we care about crypto's ultimate goals. Financial freedom, censorship resistance, privacy & more Reject the nonsense, as the numbers & facts speak for themselves. Crypto already presents us with such a beautiful dream for the future; let's not spoil our opportunity by wasting our energy on half-baked ideas like TAO Crypto deserves better than that. So, help us spread this message far & wide. As the truth will set us free! 🔥

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Jutter 𐤊τ
Jutter 𐤊τ@jutternuts·
@Justin_Bons After reading some of this dudes posts I can’t help but hear it in Andrew Tates pissed off at everything voice lol.
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Justin Bons
Justin Bons@Justin_Bons·
Bittensor is a crypto-ponzi; unsustainable nonsense! TAO has no utility or PMF; it is all driven by token inflation: $328M worth of new tokens are printed annually, yet only $15M in annual revenue was generated! Subsidies from holders pay for subnets; economically bankrupt: 🧵 Token inflation is used to give people the illusion of low cost. As the truth is that creating AI models in a "decentralized" way is far more expensive. While offering no additional utility or benefits It is all theatre; subnets are not created as competitive products. They are created simply to exist & extract as much value out of TAO investors as possible Ponzinomics & Extraction: For example, the Pine Analytics data proved that unsubsidized inference on the Chutes subnet would cost up to 3.5x as much as centralized competitors such as Deepseek or TogetherAI! What makes it all so much worse is that token holders pay for these subnets through inflation. Yet, none of the revenue actually flows back to the token holders. The subnet owners get to keep 100% of the revenue! On top of 18% of emissions, just because... That is a borderline scam, extremely profitable for subnet operators, but setting up token investors for extreme loss when the system inevitably collapses As TAO has a 21M supply limit, which might be appealing to ignorant token investors. But also implies that the network will entirely collapse, as it is fundamentally unsustainable, just like BTC Inefficient & Expensive: The problems run even deeper than that, as is the case with most DePin projects that rely on subsidies rather than real-world value accrual: The reason why decentralized computing is so inefficient is that it requires verification & replication. Within a trustless environment, we cannot simply trust the work done by individual nodes. Instead, the work must be replicated multiple times over, introducing extreme inefficiencies. This is not so bad for simple TX's, but for serious, large computing tasks, this becomes a deal breaker This is why 41% of the rewards go to "validators" whose sole task is to verify that the work being done is legitimate! This only adds to the massive inefficiency already introduced by latency within a distributed network. There are several good reasons why AIs are trained in massive data centers with cards equipped with extremely low-latency, high-bandwidth connections. Something TAO is unable to directly compete with in technical & economic terms Product Theatre: In some cases, it is worth paying a premium for decentralization; one example of this is decentralized storage However, this is not the case for the training of AI's, as this is a one-off cost usually carried out by a centralized for-profit organization. As running the AI itself is much cheaper & even achievable by individuals on a single consumer-grade machine... So, what is the incentive for this centralized organization to use a more expensive method? That does not even result in a commercially viable product, due to the lack of scale... The answer is that there is no legitimate incentive! As there are only so many people they can fool into such a ponzinomic scheme, creating an upper bound on the size these subnets can grow to, which is nowhere near what large centralized AI companies can achieve today Conclusion: There is no future in such a bankrupt design! It is all theatre to extract as much as possible; subnets are not created as competitive products. They are created simply to exist & to extract as much value out of token investors as possible! There is much I did not cover in this critique, including "decentralization theatre", modularity, bad governance, perverse incentives & terrible UX. This critique was purely economic, which is bad enough to reject TAO on that basis alone! As value investors, we have to avoid such nonsense. It is not only dangerous from an investment perspective, but it also harms the industry as a whole. The more we prop up nonsense like this, the more difficult it will be for outsiders to take our industry seriously That is why we must speak out, as we care about crypto's ultimate goals. Financial freedom, censorship resistance, privacy & more Reject the nonsense, as the numbers & facts speak for themselves. Crypto already presents us with such a beautiful dream for the future; let's not spoil our opportunity by wasting our energy on half-baked ideas like TAO Crypto deserves better than that. So, help us spread this message far & wide. As the truth will set us free! 🔥
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Scottie Pippen
Scottie Pippen@ScottiePippen·
Bitcoin is my #1 but I'm building my watch list. What coins are you watching? I got my picks... $ETH $SOL $BNB $XRP $BALL aka @Game5Ball $ADA $DOGE $SHIB $LINK $CRO What else you got? Drop your crypto picks.
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Davinci Jeremie
Davinci Jeremie@Davincij15·
#Bitcoin is mimicking Gold's 1970s move. One final dip before a mega rally. See you at $500K.
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NoLimit
NoLimit@NoLimitGains·
What do you call this pattern?
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111 ⚫️@E11eEvans·
@jutternuts @HaileyLennonBTC They didn't even hide the grift. We tried to warn everyone before presale but they had their head too far up Trumps as$
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Hailey Lennon
Hailey Lennon@HaileyLennonBTC·
This is actually insane
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Jutter 𐤊τ
Jutter 𐤊τ@jutternuts·
@laurashin This is being misconstrued and taken out of context. Tokens have been locked indefinitely since the very beginning and anyone invested in WLFI knew this. If vote no your tokens stay locked “under existing terms.” Unlocks are voted on.
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Jutter 𐤊τ@jutternuts·
@KaspaSilver @realvijayk Ah my dude, you do great things for kaspa but that explanation is just downright lazy. It’s a complicated thing, and is in no way perfect, but it has some serious potential. I mean intel is collaborating with the Targon subnet ffs. And institutional investment is flowing in.
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Victor Resto
Victor Resto@KaspaSilver·
@realvijayk Niche use case I still havent seen someone really explain why I would use this. Its always AI bull run hype. I remember someone made some token on here that let you connect your kas miner. Essentially trust trying to extract from kas. Launch is questionable. Not traditional PoW.
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Jutter 𐤊τ@jutternuts·
First kaspa block mined using a ks0 ultra solo mining to my own node. Took a couple days. Thanks to @KaspaSilver for all the guidance! $KAS
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The Kaspa Onion ꓘ
The Kaspa Onion ꓘ@thekaspaonion·
No problem bro x.com/pushpendrakum/… The same way they built a statue of satoshi, they should build a statue of you!!! Idk what you have done with your life But clearly it's better than solving the trilemma Keep up the great work bro You deserve it All your support is organic, legit, and you never had to beg for anything Who is @michaelsuttonil Anyway And what even is the trilemma, lol, probably nothing 😬
Pushpendra Singh@pushpendrakum

Guys, thank you for the incredible one-sided support! As I mentioned earlier, today we’re set to cross 10,000 votes we’re almost there! Just a few more hours and a final push from everyone will get us past the mark. Let’s give our full support and make it happen! We are still at rank 1.

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Rajat Soni, CFA
Rajat Soni, CFA@Rajatsoni·
I debated a Kaspa Maxi in July 2025 - at the time, he had 95% of his net worth in Kaspa I got absolutely rekt in the comment section of the debate Kaspa is down 50% in terms of Bitcoin since then, and it's showing no signs of recovery The Kaspa army will tell you that somehow this is a good thing My guess: Kaspa is going to lose another 50%
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