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Knower ✡️@romillyknower·
can someone please define 'grooming gang' for me? ((some people)) quit the inquiry because the scope was going to be expanded to all group-based CSE and THEY wanted it to be ONLY about 'grooming gangs'. but this is a phrase no one really understands. what is a grooming gang?
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Master_Debunker
Master_Debunker@Master_Debunker·
✴️ FEELINGS OVER FACTS ✴️ The Rape Gang Inquiry Report lacks serious credibility as a rigorous, objective, or authoritative inquiry. It functions primarily as a political advocacy document rather than a neutral fact-finding exercise. Here are my findings. - It is a private, self-appointed project chaired by a sitting MP with strong, pre-existing views on immigration, multiculturalism, and the specific issues covered. It has no statutory powers, no government backing, no independent panel of experts or judges, and no ability to compel witnesses or evidence. Official inquiries (e.g., Jay Report, Telford Inquiry) operate under formal terms of reference with legal authority; this one does not. - Crowdfunded by a self-selecting donor base. Raised £600k from over 20,000 donors explicitly framed as British patriots. This creates obvious selection bias and incentive problems. Transparency exists on the associated website, but funding from aligned supporters undermines claims of neutrality. - Heavy reliance on speculative and disputed national extrapolations. The headline claim of at least 250,000 victims since the 1950s originates from loose extrapolations by Lord Pearson (House of Lords, 2018–2019) scaling up Rotherham figures. Independent analyses (e.g., Full Fact) have repeatedly flagged this as methodologically weak and unsupported by comprehensive data. Official sources consistently note poor national recording and avoid such precise high-end totals. The report presents it as established fact. - Theological causation claims exceed the evidence. Sections attributing the phenomenon primarily to the Influence of Islam (citing specific Quranic verses, hadiths, supremacism doctrines, etc.) represent ideological interpretation rather than empirical criminological analysis. Official inquiries identify cultural attitudes, clan networks, misogyny, and opportunity structures in certain communities as key factors. They do not frame core Islamic theology as the driver. This overreach shifts the document from inquiry to polemic. - Selective focus and lack of balance. Strong emphasis on one perpetrator demographic (Pakistani Muslim men) in group-based CSE, while giving minimal weight to data limitations, other offender groups, broader child sexual exploitation patterns, or countervailing evidence. Official reviews acknowledge overrepresentation in specific prosecuted cases but stress poor data quality and the risks of overgeneralisation. The report's framing amplifies one narrative. - Advocacy tone and emotive language. Mixes formal report structure with highly charged rhetoric ("evil," "demonic chapter," "barbarism," calls for maximum penalties including death in places). Political accusations against named figures (e.g., Starmer, Khan) are presented in accusatory terms rather than balanced analysis of institutional failures documented in prior reports. - Anonymised, untested testimonies with no adversarial process — Survivor and whistleblower accounts are powerful and consistent with known cases, but they are anonymised and collected in a non-statutory setting without cross-examination, corroboration requirements, or legal safeguards typical of official inquiries or criminal proceedings. This limits verifiability. - No independent verification or peer review. It draws on existing public inquiries and media but adds its own scaling and interpretive layers without external methodological scrutiny. Claims of 149 districts and nationwide patterns since the 1950s rest on compilation rather than new rigorous fieldwork. Bottom line: The report has value in amplifying survivor voices on a genuinely serious and historically mishandled. However, its methodological weaknesses, partisan leadership and funding, speculative statistics, and ideological framing mean it does not meet the standards of a serious, credible inquiry. It is best read as a political intervention rather than a definitive or neutral source.
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Rupert Lowe MP@RupertLowe10

The Rape Gang Inquiry Report. bit.ly/4uE5odw

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Richard North
Richard North@ollieparrot·
@eatadickfarage Operationally, it should be treated as a criminal enterprise. Homing in on the Islamic dimension is unlikely to achieve results.
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Mackenzie
Mackenzie@eatadickfarage·
And to elaborate further on the religious influences driving who the gangs saw as legitimate targets. These are my own views, I haven't yet reached the part of Lowe's report where these arguments are made, it's heavy reading going through the testimonies, I'm taking it slow. Islam starkly divides the world into muslim and non-muslim, dar-al-Islam and dar-al-harb. The protections of peace and decency detailed in the quran and sunnah are heavily weighted towards intra-faith political relations, whereas the acceptable limits of conduct against non-muslims are considerably less constrained and allow what we would consider today to be war crimes and genocide. Islam dehumanises and emphasises the inferior status of non-muslims. The basic word for a non-believer, kuffar, is itself a pejorative term. Let's not pretend that 1400 years of othering those outside the religion doesn't contibute to the lack of empathy required to commit the crimes we are discussing. In Islamic jurisprudence, during conflict muslims cannot be taken as slaves, the rules of engagement are strictly regulated, bloodshed is to be avoided, wealth and property cannot be permanently taken. Conversely non-muslims can be enslaved, the women can be raped, bloodshed is permitted and at times encouraged, property can be taken. Yes, classical Islam allows these actions only under a state of war, so it's quite possible to make an argument that acting this way outside of limited scenarios is forbidden under Islamic theology and jurisprudence, however you can also argue that some of the final, most violent quranic revelations abrogated all earlier peace between muslims and non-muslims, and set the institution of Islam on a permanent state of war with the rest of the world. The Islamic conquests certainly suggest this interpretation was the accepted consensus of the time, and given the prohibition of bid'ah and Mohammed's status as the final prophet, there's no way for any kind of reformation to put that toothpaste back in the tube. The hijab acts to protect a woman's modesty (and more specifically the honour of her mahram), and to signal the purity of the woman and place her spiritually and physically off-limits. Conversely we know the rape gangs saw the non-muslim girls as promiscuous or 'asking for it' because they were unveiled or non-virgins. Morally debasing these girls by virtue of their religion was a critical step in everything that took place. Indeed we see similar sexual abuses with theological justification across the world, well outside baradari clan networks. Harrowing reports exist of the wholesale rape of female protesters in Iran, there are fatwas endorsing it published in national newspapers. The rapists call the women ghana'em, literally war booty, emphasising the doctrinal legality of sexual crime. I have no need to rehash the stories of what ISIS did to yazidi girls with the same theological justification. I will emphasise all of these actions are to an extent a twisted form of Islam. But as far as Islam itself is a big old mess of contradictory and half-baked commands and stories, it it easy to see this horrifying interpretation as valid as any other. So again, downplaying the role of religion in favour of a more sociological explanation is to do a disservice to the truth. I don't think you are doing this by design and I welcome your very perspicacious addition to the debate, but don't throw the baby with the bathwater.
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Tsundokuist
Tsundokuist@tsundokkuma·
@romillyknower in the course of your meltdown you've dropped some decent ideas. We should get a professional data-scientist on board and map the paki rape gangs out properly
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Knower ✡️@romillyknower·
The report was released. It's so bad I think it's a joke. I mean, I'm sure to the targeted demographic, this is probably the most intelligent thing they've ever read in their entire life, but it's such a MEME from an academic point of view I'm starting to think Rupert's a troll
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Steve Nage
Steve Nage@Stevnage75328·
@grace_hawthorn @DavidPGCSE The woman in *that* video focused on "county lines" The thread slates it for not being an academic study with statistical rigour Neither deals with the Report in terms of what it was trying to do, which is I think what you're focusing on - hence my interest in your take
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Knower ✡️
Knower ✡️@romillyknower·
@grace_hawthorn @BradfemlyWalsh i think the report is offensive to the survivors who were edited out of it. like the pakistani ones ... and most of the survivors of all the other gangs
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Grace Hawthorn Poundshop Prefect
@BradfemlyWalsh how was this space left for the Tommy-2-names & the Rupert Lowes to exploit? how was this allowed to happen? it's yet another monumental betrayal of survivors. beyond 2nd wound, and devastating.
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Shambo of Luxembourg
Shambo of Luxembourg@BradfemlyWalsh·
Attitudes like this was why I chose to not go into academia in my 20s. There's a form of intellectual grooming to try to get clever young women like myself to be sneerily dismissive of the suffering of ordinary women and kids just to prove their worth to snooty, lefty men. GTFO.
Knower ✡️@romillyknower

The report was released. It's so bad I think it's a joke. I mean, I'm sure to the targeted demographic, this is probably the most intelligent thing they've ever read in their entire life, but it's such a MEME from an academic point of view I'm starting to think Rupert's a troll

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Simon C
Simon C@Simon_Cleret·
@romillyknower Defending the rape gangs is probably not the smartest move you've ever done, m8.
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Some Guy
Some Guy@SmorglesBord·
@romillyknower Your comments raise an important question: what if it’s not only Muslims who must be removed from British society?
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NotReallyFeelingIt
NotReallyFeelingIt@cognitofalcon·
@romillyknower So what's your point? Are you more concerned with political gotcha games? Or are you concerned about the victims? Because you put all your energy into pedantic gotcha games. You put your energy into academic jargon and hide behind it like a high and mighty arbiter of truth.
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NotReallyFeelingIt
NotReallyFeelingIt@cognitofalcon·
@romillyknower You post paragraphs of ridoculous dribble to attempt to cast 250,000 vivtims' testimony into extreme doubt and skepticism. Your flippant tone is disrespectful.
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Knower ✡️
Knower ✡️@romillyknower·
@FrannyRocket you've not explained why a report claiming a network doesn't provide evidence for a network
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Franny Rocket
Franny Rocket@FrannyRocket·
@romillyknower Your complaints are meaningless. I've explained why, but it's above your paygrade to understand.
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I,Hypocrite
I,Hypocrite@lporiginalg·
@romillyknower Real quick, how many people died in the holocaust? Please provide all the sources and citations you listed in your critique of the grooming gang report as they pertain to the holly.
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