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Approximate Value Over Expectation for draft picks since 2022: 1. Rams (+125.2) 2. Buccaneers (+92.4) 3. Bills (+79.6) 4. Packers (+76.5) 5. Seahawks (+64.7) ... 28. Titans (-26.7) 29. Browns (-35.1) 30. Cardinals (-36.7) 31. Panthers (-39.5) 32. Vikings (-61)

@jack_klompus101 How was Darnolds record before Minnesota? Should Minnesota and Seattle passed on him because of his career win loss record from playing on 2 of the worst teams of the last decade?

@sum_nuts Now do how many have won picking up a QB with a losing record elsewhere for 8 years. 🤣🤣

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@jack_klompus101 Can’t argue with someone who uses QB wins as a meaningful metric. Just because they are the most impactful position doesn’t mean every loss is their fault and every win is because of them. This isn’t tennis. Joey B is 19-16 last 3 years. That must mean you think he’s mediocre.

@jack_klompus101 Perfect examples, thank you. What rounds were 2 of 3 of your examples drafted in? I must have missed when Philly and NE tanked to get their guys with a top 5 pick! Btw, only 21 QBs in the history of the sport have won with the team that drafted them. Great odds !

@sum_nuts Really? Hmm. Was Mahomes drafted by the Chiefs? Brady by the Pats? Hurts by the Eagles? That a helluva lot of SB wins.

@jack_klompus101 I forgot you people think drafting a rookie QB is the only way to win a superbowl in reality, that almost never happens.

@sum_nuts Then enjoy another period of mediocrity with no playoff success.

@jack_klompus101 I only stated what literally happened last year and you argue it, shocker. Our obvious difference here is that I prefer to win no matter what, you prefer to go 2-15 and give 18 to another team. I will simply enjoy not watching JJ next year zero expectations. It's that simple.

@sum_nuts Cmon. They were 4-8 and played meaningless games and stupidly won them. Certainly being 2-3 with Wentz didn’t help. So you think this team is a SB contender now? Seriously?

@jack_klompus101 Correct I guess you didn't catch the sarcasm. Their entire is team is awful, its not rocket science for them. This roster was virtually a kick return away from winning the division with the worst QB in modern history. Yeah, lets just trade everyone away.

@sum_nuts Yes they are. They would rather tank for a good young QB than run it back with Kyler. No future in it. That’s proven.

@jack_klompus101 We have Murray signed for one season and you pick at 17 this season. Oh the horror of having to watch a better player at QB this year. You aren't winning a SB with JJ and you wouldn't out tank at least 5 other teams to get your next precious rookie qb deal.

@sum_nuts You can’t even answer the question. I don’t care if he is better. He isn’t good enough. So frustrating to see this middle ground crap every year and zero success on playoffs. Now, another has been QB to save the day? I’d rather trade Jefferson, McCarthy, Grenard and start over.

@jack_klompus101 I do. And I don't care about the Cardinals and their decisions in the slightest. Since you love QB W/L, surely they aren't just running it back with JB (2-12) for another high draft pick.

@sum_nuts You realize that the Cards did this: 1) rather play Jacoby Brissett 2) rather give Murray $38 million than to even have him on their team.

@jack_klompus101 You thought correctly.

@sum_nuts I thought Flores was coach with Wentz playing QB too?

@jack_klompus101 We will be better than Cle, Miami, NYJ, AZ, no matter who plays at QB. So, yeah, let’s let JJ get us to 4-5 wins and be stuck with Lanoris Sellers or Sam Leavitt. All I know is that I am 100% certain K1 is better at the QB position than JJ is by a wide margin.

@sum_nuts Do you actually think Murray can win the Vikings a Super Bowl? Or are you one of these let’s win 9 or 10 wins if we can guys?

@jack_klompus101 Stop with the records lol Brian Flores won most of JJ’s “wins” lol Played less than McCarthy? Congrats. That’s literally the plan for a backup quarterback? Goodness.

@sum_nuts Serviceable? He had a worse record that McCarthy. Dropped by every team that has had him. He’s old. Broken down. Played fewer games than MAcCarthy.

@JDissetteIII @SK_NFL Wrong. Theres nothing to praise.

@SK_NFL If JJ McCarthy went to Ohio State, CC would be singing his praises

Does JJ piss in cris’ Cheerios every morning or something? I’m confused.. this feels weirdly personal for him. Has any former player ever come out with this type of hatred towards a current player? 😂😂

@jack_klompus101 I truly don’t understand what 9 has shown people like you to be so obsessed with him. He doesn’t even have basic mechanics figured out, inaccurate, can’t stay in the field & plays extremely reckless. He’s a disaster.

@sum_nuts No. Signing an emergency QB because they were stuck with Brodmer last year. Predictable. If he is backup and JJ gone it’s only because of a rift between JJ and his agents and KOC who seems to have failed to develop HJ

*Language warning* Vikings legend @criscarter80 had a pretty blunt reaction to the Kyler Murray signing on the @FullyLoaded_Pod 😅

@1love1life1soul @PatSieps This is an insane take.

@PatSieps If McCarthy didn’t get hurt last year the Vikings make the playoffs

If Carson Wentz didn't get hurt last year do the Vikings make the playoffs?

@jack_klompus101 Signing a serviceable backup to Kyler. It’s really simple.

@sum_nuts Wentz 2-3 with 6 TDs and 5 ints. Any team could sign him for nothing practically. He wasn’t even on a team last year when we signed him last minute. The Chiefs dumped him for nobody. What are we doing?

@jack_klompus101 JJ is a jet.

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