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@truth32935

Life is about the journey, the destination is the same.

가입일 Şubat 2020
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Jake Shields
Jake Shields@jakeshieldsajj·
This is probably the most retarded argument I've ever heard He's arguing it's okay to kill hundreds of school girls because there are a few pedos in Iran
Rex@rexjonesnewz

Total @OwenShroyer1776 W! American Imperialists are at least honest about their brutal policies of domination through collective punishment. The independent thinker knows we voted against this, and Shroyer, as a 3x Trump voter speaks to that here. Great debate!

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RedFox@truth32935·
Its not bad faith. Its just precise. This is exactly what we do in philosophy. I should not have to infer your argument and make it better. Your words should stand on their own. You wanted to play a semantic game. Dont get mad at me for enforcing the same rules. If you dont know truth functions or invalidity arguments then dont pretend to.
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Bigred Es
Bigred Es@EsBigred·
@truth32935 @jakeshieldsajj No we just need you to stop being a pathetic pedant. You didn’t prove anyone wrong. Your whole argument is you know what I meant more than I did. It’s the most pathetic point you have made yet in a long stream of pathetic points.
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RedFox@truth32935·
@EsBigred @jakeshieldsajj I never said that you said “I demand pedantry” Dont even pull it because I will drag you with that.
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RedFox@truth32935·
@EsBigred @jakeshieldsajj Im scrambling? Im relaxed and chilling. This is easy. So what did you mean by: “Your articles only proof was debunking your latest claim. Clearly not everyone in Iran supports it so what's your point? Your article was literally people in Iran trying to pass a law to stop it.”
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RedFox@truth32935·
@EsBigred @jakeshieldsajj I agree it is pedantic. Thats what you wanted. English language is full of loose language and metaphor. Do you want to reset and stop being a dick?
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Bigred Es
Bigred Es@EsBigred·
@truth32935 @jakeshieldsajj That isn’t semantics. That is pedantry. I didn’t bring in semantics you did. You falsely claimed I did when I directly answered a question. Again, you are being extremely bad faith.
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RedFox@truth32935·
@EsBigred @jakeshieldsajj You literally have quotes. Do we need to impose an academic writing style? This is just you being proven wrong and pivoting or denying. Admit you made a mistake. Clarify your intent and move on.
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Bigred Es
Bigred Es@EsBigred·
@truth32935 @jakeshieldsajj No where in this statement did I say moving to a strawman was the title of the fallacy. You just made that up. I even clarified and you are doubling down on it. You are extremely bad faith. I will try to clarify a second time “You are moving on to using a strawman”
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RedFox@truth32935·
What specifically about Epstein evidence was the claim? Bombing pedos is not a justification for the Iranian war. Andrew Wilson did not say that either. Thats a straw man. Its is a feature of the war. Iran intervention follows JWT pillars. Some debatable. Thats the US justification.
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Bigred Es
Bigred Es@EsBigred·
lol you are hilarious. Yes people can have standards that they change. wtf are you even talking about. It’s absolutely hilarious when you try to sound smarter than you are. You are just lying at this point. Andrew has said in multiple debates “oh you are mad we are bombing pedos” to justify the Iran war.
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RedFox@truth32935·
@EsBigred @jakeshieldsajj No, you wanted strict semantics. We are applying your standard. You cannot move to a fallacy. A fallacy is an invalid argument usually due to form/structure, or concept. It is either a straw man or it is not.
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Bigred Es
Bigred Es@EsBigred·
@truth32935 @jakeshieldsajj Where did I say moving was part of the fallacy? You just made that up. Moving as in you are moving on to a fallacy. I forgot you need everything spelled out or it shorts your brain.
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RedFox@truth32935·
@EsBigred @jakeshieldsajj Not everyone = at least someone, these are common quantifiers in logic. Not everyone ≠ everyone or no one. This is basic logic.
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Bigred Es
Bigred Es@EsBigred·
@truth32935 @jakeshieldsajj No you said “not everyone in America supports the child marriage law”. Again you are trying to apply a different standard. YOU are the one that brought the argument into the conversation.
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RedFox@truth32935·
Its relevant that You were wrong. Adnrew Wilson cannot move the standard. The standard is a nonmaterial abstract. Its impossible. What specifically about evidence of Epstein and his claim are you referring to? What evidence do you have that there is a “very lax evidence” that justifies the Iran war? I dont believe any if that was mentioned. This is a strawman.
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Bigred Es
Bigred Es@EsBigred·
@truth32935 @jakeshieldsajj It’s irrelevant if he directly compared them. He still moved the standard of evidence. He is extremely strict on evidence of Epstein but very lax on evidence that allows him to hand wave off the Iran war. He just shouldn’t say it. It’s the weakest argument he has made.
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RedFox@truth32935·
I dont recall saying “everyone in Iran supports pedophilia” can you link it? The Iranian human rights are not normally in Iran. They use sources in Iran and cite public announcements. You would know that if you read the articles not just the headlines. The article was in fact not literally people. An article is not a human being. The digital article does not share the same ontology of a human being. It is not “the exact same in America”. Iranian Human rights are not calling for changes to America’s laws.
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Bigred Es
Bigred Es@EsBigred·
Your articles only proof was debunking your latest claim. Clearly not everyone in Iran supports it so what’s your point? Your article was literally people in Iran trying to pass a law to stop it. The exact same as America. Because people do try to pass laws to stop it and IT GETS OUT VOTED.
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RedFox@truth32935·
@EsBigred @jakeshieldsajj Moving to a straw-man isnt a fallacy in logic. What kind of Christian? You’re arbitrary, not consistent. What exactly do you think Andrew said about Epstein pedos compared to Iranian ones? The extreme? No Im a moderate. I endorse options and constraints.
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Bigred Es
Bigred Es@EsBigred·
It was a typo. Spare me. “Moving to a strawman” No I am not Muslim. I am Christian. Yes, I demanded consistency. I’ve been clear on that. It was my argument that Andrew was inconsistent on his standard of evidence for Epstein pedos compared to Iranian ones. The extreme was a making of YOUR SIDE of the argument.
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Bigred Es
Bigred Es@EsBigred·
@truth32935 @jakeshieldsajj You literally gave me articles of people in Iran being against child marriages. Again you have a consistency problems.
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RedFox@truth32935·
You’re not secular. So what are you? Muslim? Moving straw mans is not a rule in logic. Quit making things up. Its been your whole argument and demand for extreme evidence from a closed society. Every time? Thats not true. Andrew Wilson talks about many aspect of the Iranian war. He draws a nuance that the war has positive and negative features. Thats not what a worldview is. Whats a worldview?
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Bigred Es
Bigred Es@EsBigred·
I’m not secular. Now you are moving to strawmans. I haven’t been defending it at all. It’s Andrew’s argument he has made multiple times that you are defending. Everytime the Iran war comes up he just goes “oh you are defending pedos”. That would mean if you are defending that you are in fact taking that world view.
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Bigred Es@EsBigred·
@truth32935 @jakeshieldsajj The fact that people are using it and it’s approved by a judge? Yes, we have laws about donkeys and hotels for a reason. It’s an old law and not used but it had a purpose when the law was created.
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