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@JMxGA @PabloMakes That’s the issue, you can get them from “gacha” anyway. In any case, my idea isn’t about ultra-rare drops, but about Mythic+ style dungeons with a leaderboard system.

@vyrmk @PabloMakes Am I crazy or does this not exist already with stuff like ETA? Arcane Hot Shot and the other one and before that Energize are all rare rewards that aren’t exclusive since you can buy them and gacha them at Loid, but are exciting both when you first get them and after for selling

Got asked on devshort why I don't think raids work on WF, so sharing my thoughts. tl;dr I don't believe you can have good raids without challenge. And you can't have challenge without balance changes. 1/10

@PabloMakes Maybe I’m just new and not familiar with the culture, but I’d consider adding something like that even without exclusive but valuable rewards. I think that would fit well into the game loop.

@vyrmk Hey I farmed that Raven mount for ages, I get it. But different games set different expectations, and in WF everyone expects to get everything eventually, super rare thing no one else has, has never really been our culture

@PabloMakes I get it, but Warframe lacks that euphoria feeling, like a 0.05% mount drop you win on roll. With M+ style activity, stronger Archon Shards or other exclusive buffs could be tied to leaderboard placement. If the playerbase already loves speed why not build on that?

@vyrmk I loved doing wow raids, but you could go a month without getting new loot, and then when you did and got the best in slot, 6 months later an expansion came out and now a green vendor sword was better. WF players are used to getting much more loot faster and never losing it