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Kevin Pho, M.D.

Kevin Pho, M.D.

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Physician | https://t.co/ymdHK4O5hQ | The Podcast by KevinMD

Nashua, NH, north of Boston Katılım Aralık 2007
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A private insurer just decided that a cancer patient could not have her chemotherapy in the cancer center. She walked away from treatment entirely. This is the rollout most clinicians have not noticed yet, and it is starting in rural America by design. Banu Symington has practiced hematology-oncology in highly rural settings for more than 20 years. In May, at a state oncology meeting, the room was told three things were "coming down the pike": white bagging, brown bagging, and off-site infusions. They were framed as remote possibilities. Within a week, two of her insurance carriers sent her letters. They would no longer reimburse chemotherapy delivered inside the cancer center. She was to write orders sending her patients to an independent infusion suite owned by a community pharmacist, staffed only by nurses, with no oncologist on the floor, no nurse practitioner trained to manage an infusion reaction, no ER down the hall, no code blue team in the building. Infusion reactions can occur at any cycle, not just the first. She appealed. The insurer denied the appeal. Her hospital's finance manager offered to match the off-site price so the chemotherapy could remain in a setting where a physician could intervene. The insurer refused to negotiate. One of her patients withdrew from chemotherapy entirely. She would not go off-site, and she could not pay out of pocket. So the treatment ended. The strategy is rural-first by design. Fewer rural physicians, fewer rural patients, less organized resistance. Once it scales there, urban centers are next. Medicare is not doing this. Private insurance is. Medicare Advantage, which is private insurance administering Medicare, is beginning to. Save the framework, three rollout vectors to watch in your market: 1. Off-site infusion mandates: chemotherapy moved out of the cancer center to an unsupervised, for-profit suite 2. White bagging: drugs shipped to the hospital pharmacy with no margin retained, eroding the only line that keeps rural cancer centers solvent 3. Brown bagging: cytotoxic drugs shipped directly to the patient's home, then carried in, with no chain-of-custody guarantee on temperature or handling Cancer centers do not break even on Medicare or Medicaid. The small margin on privately insured patients is what keeps them open. Strip that margin and the centers close. The patients then drive further, or stop. Listen to the full conversation on The Podcast by KevinMD. Link in the replies. What is the first vector you have already seen land in your market? #PatientAdvocacy #ThePodcastbyKevinMD
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If you speak up about patient safety in a corporate healthcare system, you will be retaliated against. Plan accordingly. Pediatrician Dr. Karla Lester resigned from a children's hospital three and a half years ago, on her attorney's directive, effective immediately. She had built the population health center from scratch. She had built the weight management clinic over three years. Her crime was telling the CEO that the outcomes he was presenting publicly were not real. Twenty people at that organization, she says, took turns gaslighting her over months. The pattern was the same every time. Stage one. She would point out a falsified outcome or a quality concern. Stage two. She would be told it was her tone, her personality, her behavior. Stage three. Meetings would get scheduled where everyone but her would mysteriously cancel. The three operating strategies of a gaslighting executive, in her words. 1. Fabricate outcomes to suit the audience. 2. Control the narrative at all costs. 3. Silence anyone who speaks up. The three stages a target moves through, also in her words. 1. Disbelief. "Did that just happen?" 2. Defense. "I have to explain myself." 3. Depression. What she wants every physician, nurse, and clinician to internalize. You will not fix this. The system is not asking to be fixed. Your job is to name the gaslighting the moment it starts, refuse to engage in the "gaslight tango," document everything, never take a meeting alone, and find an employment attorney who works specifically with physicians before you think you need one. One more piece worth bookmarking. The retaliation is rarely the work of one bad executive. It is delivered by what Dr. Lester calls "shape shifters", the people around the leader who will adopt whatever posture, including lying about clinical outcomes, in order to keep their jobs. They are the delivery mechanism. The culture is set at the top. This is why HR is almost never the right place to go first, and why a colleague-witness or a recording is almost always the right thing to insist on before any closed-door meeting. Of the twenty people who participated in gaslighting her, fourteen have since left the organization. What is the first signal you have learned to read that tells you a leader is no longer arguing with you in good faith? Search "The Podcast by KevinMD" wherever you listen to podcasts. Link in the replies. #ThePodcastbyKevinMD
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A medical school professor walks into clinic with her 12 year old son. He has 18 specialists. She does not fill out the intake form anymore. She hands the front desk a one-page medical sheet and says, "This is the current state of affairs," because the complexity will not fit in anything a clinic prints. That is Kathleen Muldoon, a med school professor and the parent of a medically complex child. She and co-guest Jonathan Cottor came on the podcast to talk about what pediatric medicine misses when it treats the diagnosis as the whole job. Kathleen is the one teaching your future colleagues what humanistic, whole-person care looks like. She is also the one who gets up in the middle of the night to reposition her son, because he cannot move on his own. Here is what your 15 minute visit does not see. The alarms that go off all night. The cold mornings in Arizona when his whole body tenses and nothing moves the way it should, which changes his mood before you ever lay eyes on him. The communication device she has to fight for so people can finally hear that her son can answer his own questions when he is given the chance. The two siblings absorbing the labor and the mood of a household run on triage. The third grader asked at school whether his brother was going to die. The six months of logistical work it takes to arrange a single weekend away. She has a spider web diagram she shows med students that maps all 18 specialties and how they interact, because none of them talk to each other. The diagram is not a curriculum exercise. It is the operating manual of her actual life. We have built a pediatric system that treats medical complexity as a list of diagnoses to manage. The families managing those diagnoses are running a 24/7 operation with no shift change, no relief team, and a clinic visit that asks about A1c but not about whether anyone in the house has slept. The intake form has a field for allergies. It does not have a field for "the parent across from you has not slept through the night in years." The reframe worth bookmarking: care is not just clinical, it is relational. When you care for the caregiver, you are caring for the whole family. In a 15 minute visit, that is three questions. Do you have respite care. How do you care for yourself. What would make it easier for you to keep doing this safely. Those three questions are the cheapest, highest-leverage intervention in pediatric medicine that almost no chart prompts you to make. They take under a minute. They cost nothing. They tell the family across from you that the person doing the most work in their child's care, the one with no medical license and no shift end, has finally been seen by the system that prescribed it. Listen to the full conversation on The Podcast by KevinMD. Link in the replies. Which of those three questions have you been avoiding asking, because you are afraid of the answer? #ThePodcastbyKevinMD
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A mother slept upstairs while a licensed nurse tortured her two-year-old son in the room below. She only found out because they caught him on video. Ashley Youngdale's son Declan had Mobius syndrome. He was trached and ventilated before he was two months old and needed round-the-clock skilled nursing in the home. That is what the system promised. What it delivered was a rotating cast of "specially trained" nurses who walked into her house having never changed a trach, never suctioned one, never seen a ventilator. She quit her job to be his primary nurse, his trainer, his care coordinator, and the adult who stayed awake so he wouldn't die. She is on record saying there were multiple incidents where, had she not personally been in the room, he would have died. Then there was the night nurse. The man was caught on video torturing Declan for weeks. He was prosecuted. He served one year. At the time, what he did was not technically illegal in their state, because no statute existed for what a licensed nurse could do to a medically fragile toddler. Ashley advocated for the law to change. The law changed. The man who is the reason child torture statutes exist in Minnesota still has a path back to a nursing license in 20 years. This is the part most people skip past, so read it twice. She reported the other nurses too. The one who left pinch-mark bruises on a child who could not speak. The one who decided unilaterally to increase Declan's vent settings, a move so far out of scope that, had his trach been cuffed, she could have blown his lung. The nursing board did nothing. Ashley stopped reporting. Not because she stopped caring. Because reporting was a waste of time. The lesson she learned and is now saying out loud after Declan's death last year is the part the home care industry will never put in a brochure: A nursing license is not a character reference. A nursing license is not a competence guarantee. Oversight is real. Enforcement is theater. And no nurse is better than a bad nurse, every day of the week. Declan was, by every account from the people who knew him, one of the kindest children alive. His mother is finishing a memoir and saying the part she spent his whole life learning the hard way: in home health care, the parent is the last line of accountability, because there is no other line. Listen to the full conversation on The Podcast by KevinMD. Link in the replies. What is the policy change that would have made the difference for a family like this? #ThePodcastbyKevinMD
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A woman walked into a hospital able to give her own history. She did not walk out. Nobody asked the right question for eighteen hours. The procedure was an NG tube under anesthesia. The complication was a tear in the posterior fundus of the stomach. Three liters of fluid, undigested food, bile, and acid spilled into her abdominal cavity. She went into respiratory distress at the end of the procedure and was moved to the ICU on a ventilator. For the next eighteen hours, no one looked. No CT. No surgical consult. No serious investigation of the abdomen that was visibly swollen. When her sister, Dr. Sydney Lou Bonnick, an internal medicine physician, arrived and asked the young physician how an NG tube becomes a ventilator, he answered: "She has stage four breast cancer." Asked again, he repeated it. Stage four was lymph node involvement. No visceral metastases. The cancer was not killing her in that ICU bed. An unrecognized gastric perforation was. The CT confirmed it. Surgery found the tear, the three liters, the pH of 7.0. She died days later. The hospital investigation concluded no one had done anything wrong. Two things to bookmark from Dr. Bonnick: 1. A patient with stage four cancer can have something else wrong with them. Something acute. Something treatable. Something curable. Assuming otherwise, in the absence of proof, is a clinical failure mode with a body count. 2. Arrogance and confidence are not the same. Confidence is what we want in physicians. Arrogance is what allows a physician to refuse to consider that a procedure they participated in might have caused the catastrophic complication unfolding in front of them. Arrogance can kill. The deeper failure here is not that something went wrong during the procedure. Things go wrong in clinical medicine. Even in the most skilled hands, complications happen. The failure is that no one entertained the possibility that something could have gone wrong, because they had already settled on a different story about why the patient was deteriorating. The "she has stage four breast cancer" answer was not a diagnosis. It was a refusal to think. Eighteen hours is not a near miss. It is a verdict on a culture of attribution. Listen to the full conversation on The Podcast by KevinMD. Link in the replies. When have you watched a "she's a stage four" or its equivalent shut down a workup that should have happened? #PatientSafety #ThePodcastbyKevinMD
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Fifteen years ago, 75 percent of US physicians were in private practice. Today, around 25 percent are. That is not market evolution. That is a policy outcome. Hospitals are paid 2 to 3 times more than independent practices for the same office visit. For echo and MRI, 3 to 5 times more. Same physician work. Same diagnosis. Different check, because the door has a hospital logo on it. Then layer the prior auth burden. The typical small practice now runs about 40 prior auths a week. Generic medications that did not require approval five years ago now require approval. Every MRI requires approval. Most denials are algorithmic, with no specialist on the other end who can actually override anything. Then layer MIPS, MACRA, and the 2013 Misvalued Code Initiative that cut reimbursements for office-based echo and EMG by more than 50 percent while leaving hospital-employed physicians shielded. The result, per neurologist Scott Tzorfas on The Podcast by KevinMD, is that wait times in his area now run six to nine months for a specialist and close to a year at the academic hospitals. Not because there are too few doctors. Because the small offices that used to absorb that volume have been driven into hospital systems where payment is higher and overhead is somebody else's problem. He proposes site-neutral payment, repealing the restrictions on physician-owned hospitals, and applying the qualified business income deduction to physician practices. Reverse the financial incentives that bent the field, and the field bends back. There is also a perverse premium incentive baked into the ACA. Insurance profits are capped at 15 to 20 percent of premiums, but that is a percentage cap, not a dollar cap. Higher hospital prices push premiums up, which pushes the dollar value of that 15 to 20 percent up too. The system is paying more for the same work and calling the result a market. The structural fix is not complicated. The structural will is what is missing. Search "The Podcast by KevinMD" wherever you listen to podcasts. Link in the replies. What policy lever would actually pull more clinicians back into independent practice? #ThePodcastbyKevinMD
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A doctor found out he had an ascending aortic aneurysm because his cardiologist mentioned it in passing. Then, when he asked for a beta blocker through the patient portal, the answer he got back was "he isn't comfortable." He asked why. A week later: "He just said he isn't comfortable." This is a man with a PhD, 10 years in anesthesia, and 20 years in private psychiatry. If he can't get a straight answer from his own cardiologist, who can. So he did what every patient in 2026 is doing. He went online. He read about nebivolol and nitric oxide. He ordered five-milligram nebivolol from an online pharmacy. Twenty dollars, ten-minute approval from a doctor he had never met. No one ever asked about his health. Jeffrey Junig, MD, PhD, learned he had an aneurysm because his cardiologist mentioned it in passing during a 20-minute initial visit. "Your aneurysm looks stable." He said: "Aneurysm? What aneurysm?" That was the visit. The clinical outcomes in modern medicine are extraordinary. The 12-hour surgery that saved his life from CTEPH in 2022 would not have existed 30 years ago. And in between those miracles, the smaller things, the cold fingers from metoprolol, the question that didn't fit in 15 minutes, the prescription making your life smaller in a way nobody warned you about, are vanishing. The gap between clinical outcomes and lived experience is now wide enough that doctors themselves are falling into it. Patients are not abandoning medicine. Medicine is squeezing them out and they are going to Quora, to Google, to online pharmacies, because the alternative is silence on a portal. There is a sentence Jeffrey wishes more patients felt allowed to say to their doctor: "This is helping, but it is making my life smaller." The first physician to build that sentence into a 15-minute visit will redefine what a visit is. Search "The Podcast by KevinMD" wherever you listen to podcasts. Link in the replies. What is the smallest, most insulting answer you have gotten back from a patient portal this year? #ThePodcastbyKevinMD
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A classic episode, republished in memory of Dr. Manny Konstantakos, an orthopedic surgeon and longtime advocate for physician choice in board certification, who passed away suddenly in 2023. Maintenance of Certification is voluntary. Hospitals will not credential you without it. Insurers will not reimburse you without it. Practice groups will not hire you without it. The thing that is "voluntary" is the thing you cannot earn a living without. That is not a choice. That is a monopoly with better branding. Manny saw the structure for what it was, and he spent years asking other physicians to see it too. Board certification did not start as the gatekeeping apparatus it became. In the 1930s a group of academic physicians created it as a way to demonstrate mastery of their specialty. It was a credential, not a ticket to practice. The transformation into an economic prerequisite happened over the decades that followed, quietly, without any single legislative moment that anyone can point at. The cleanest version of the paradox came from Jeff Morris on the same episode. "We are not forcing you to do this. But you cannot practice without it." Every recertification cycle, every credentialing database with a single drop-down option, every residency program whose accreditation is tied to first-time pass rates on one board's exam, runs through that sentence. The mechanics matter. Residents are funneled into a single board's exam the moment they finish training. Program directors will not steer their best graduates toward a competing board, because their own program's accreditation depends on first-time pass rates on the dominant one. The choice architecture is closed before any individual physician ever gets to choose. By the time you are out in practice, the credentialing databases your hospital uses, the networks your insurer credentials through, the protocols your group is contracted under, all have a single drop-down option. "Voluntary" is the word that lets the structure call itself a market. Manny kept returning to a different sentence. Why do we become doctors in the first place. The answer he gave, every time, was patient care. The structure around that answer was supposed to serve it. He believed physicians deserved a system that actually did. Honoring that belief is the reason this conversation gets republished now. Listen to the full conversation on The Podcast by KevinMD. Link in the replies. What part of your professional life is "voluntary" in name only? #BoardCertification #ThePodcastbyKevinMD
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A neurosurgeon with two spine fellowships and no malpractice history was summarily suspended by a state medical board in February. The complaints had not come from patients. They had come from a former colleague filing them in waves. When his defense team subpoenaed his own records, they discovered the board had never read the full chart. The board had pulled only a few days of care surrounding the surgeries, missing the six months of clinical decision-making before. They had also subpoenaed the wrong entity, the hospital where the surgeries happened, not the medical group that actually employed him. The records the board's expert reviewed were incomplete. He knew they were incomplete. He said nothing. Four independent experts retained by the defense reviewed the full chart and unanimously concluded there was no breach of the standard of care. The board's response: vacate the suspension on the patient with the most egregious accusation against him (the one who recovered completely and walked off her opioids), and resuspend him on the other two. Same hearing. No new evidence. No published rationale. For one of the remaining cases, the board's expert argued he should never have operated on an elderly woman with severe spinal stenosis on top of an unhealed fracture, who had progressed from walking to a wheelchair over six months and was losing strength in her legs. The expert's stated reasoning: "Worse things in life than being in a wheelchair." The mechanic of how this happened is the part every physician should bookmark. In this state, a summary suspension can be issued by two board members, the secretary and the supervising member, neither of whom has to be in the same specialty as the physician under review. The other voting members of the board cannot review evidence until after the case is over. There is no equivalent of a grand jury. No probable-cause review. The first time the full board sees the file is at the disposition vote. Jeffrey Hatef, Jr. has not practiced medicine since February. His license is gone. His attorney, who started his career as a board attorney 30 years ago and has spent decades on the defense side, told him he has never seen a board vacate a suspension and re-issue it on the same hearing without new evidence. Search "The Podcast by KevinMD" wherever you listen to podcasts. Link in the replies. What structural reform would you push for first if you had to redesign how state medical boards process complaints? #ThePodcastbyKevinMD
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The patient who keeps coming back is the patient you have not figured out yet. A pediatrician in her forties learned that the hard way. She walked into the ER with blood pressures in the 200s and was told anyone could see she was having a panic attack and the ER wasn't really the place for that. About an hour later, they found a ten by twelve centimeter tumor in her abdomen. She had been sent home twice before with anxiety. She had reviewed her own chart. She had called her own utilization review team to send over the criteria for hypertensive emergency. She had asked an adult medicine colleague if she was overreacting and been told no, this isn't right. She had cried in triage because her body was telling her something her chart was refusing to record. That is Kelly Curtin-Hallinan. The diagnosis was renal cell carcinoma, originally staged 4, eventually downgraded to 3. She is finishing treatment this month. Two things to bookmark from this story. One. A second visit is not a behavioral problem. A third visit is a diagnostic clue. The hypertensive emergency criteria are not aspirational, they are a disposition. If a patient meets them, the answer is admission, not reassurance. The chest scan called negative on visit one had findings on it the second time someone bothered to look. The "negative" reads were the diagnostic miss, not the abdominal scan that finally caught the tumor. The system did not fail because a tumor is hard to see. It failed because a story about an anxious woman in her forties was easier to read than the data already in her chart. Two. A patient asking for a scan is not a difficult patient. A patient who has read her own chart is not a difficult patient. A clinician who is also a patient is still a patient. The implicit bias toward "anxious woman in her forties" does not stop at the white coat. She had to insist on seeing the physician instead of the extender. She had to ask for the abdominal scan herself. She had to call her own utilization review team to send over the criteria she clearly met. None of that should be the price of admission to a workup. She is not angry at the people who missed it. She is processing what it taught her about being on the other side of the door. The takeaway she wanted to leave with the audience was the smallest possible one. Listen to your patients. Even if you cannot solve their problem, you can meet them where they are. Listen to the full conversation on The Podcast by KevinMD. Link in the replies. What is the last "anxiety" diagnosis you walked back? #ThePodcastbyKevinMD
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