Kimball Call

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@KimballCall @NoblestCalling You’re like some kind of a prophet, aren’t you?

You can’t make this app up. 😂😂😂

We need more of this! Turning our words and rhetoric into action to save Utah, build America, and share the light of the gospel.

At this and a handful of other events over the last few weeks I’ve gotten to meet many #LDX and #utpol folks in real life. I’ve been inspired by how good and proactive you all are when we aren’t yapping on X. Today’s Constitutional Action event is the perfect example.

@buckteasdale I think you’re misguided, as is Rob.

@KimballCall A good place to start is Rob Fotheringham’s YouTube channel.

“As a member of the Church, I won’t criticize the practice of plural marriage in the early days, but I won’t defend it either.” No, you should defend it. Embrace it. Study it. Gain a testimony of it. It was an important part of the restoration and it’s worth defending.

The fact that there are dysfunctional and abusive heterosexual marriages/families is NOT a justification for same-sex marriage/families. Both are violations of God’s laws. Violation of one of God’s laws does not justify violation of another. That’s not how it works. God set the standard from the very beginning.

@PGRodriguez80 Well then good, that works

@KimballCall Oh I have a testimony about it. I prefer to focus on the more immediately important parts.

@JordanBraginton I can’t tell if you’re a believing member or not. My answer to this will vary depending.

@KimballCall The main justification for polygamy in the book of Mormon is to raise up a righteous generation. Problem is, I see very little evidence that couldn't have been done with monogomy in the early church.

@buckteasdale You deny plural marriage was taught by Joseph Smith?

@KimballCall No. Just some other brilliant guy. :) More people are waking up…

@PGRodriguez80 Well said. You don’t need to have a testimony of plural marriage and its role in the restoration right now, but eventually it will be good to have. It will come to you in the same way as your testimony of the Book of Mormon.

@KimballCall As a member of the church i do not care either way. I do not hang my testimony on it. I prayed to know about the veracity of the book of Mormon and the church. I received my answer and that is why i got baptized.

@future_grandpa That doesn’t mean I’m not right about it. I don’t care if it doesn’t affect my standing on the church. I never said it needed to. I do think it’s important in other ways.

@KimballCall You think you need to have this opinion, but you don’t. You can be in good standing with the Church without holding this opinion. And that’s what makes it a puzzling position to take.

@JordanBraginton In another comment I discussed how one of my ancestors (Ann Mariah Bowen) had a very messy divorce from Anson Call as his second wife. I’m well aware that it wasn’t hunky dory.

@KimballCall There are plenty of accounts of people who had terrible experiences with polygamy. You cant just read the stories of women who approved of it and assume everything was hunky dory.

@2cammac2 I would say similar words of the LGBT community. They sincerely believe what they are doing will bring happiness. Doesn’t make it right, nor will it bring real happiness.

@KimballCall I can honor that many of them sincerely believed they were following God’s commandments. Doesn’t make it right imo.

@KimballCall It had more curses that continue to harm people to this day

"Polygamy was great actually"

@JP3382483679513 There aren’t enough women on the dating market, first of all. Second of all, marriage is between one man and one woman. That’s the way it should be unless there’s a specific commandment for it otherwise.

@KimballCall Lol, Im a little out there, but I stand by it. I think if we are comfortable with the Church not being perfect, this is quite a logical outcome. Ive seen numerous credible things which support it.

@buckteasdale Didn’t I meet you at the Town Hall with Kai Schwemmer the other night?

@KimballCall Start by reading everything Joseph Smith said about it. He condemned the practice with every opportunity. Read what the Book of Mormon says about it. Then, you have to decide. Are you going with Joseph and the Book of Mormon or with Brigham Young? You can’t have both.

There were many. But the one that touched my heart was the realization that plural marriage created strong, righteous families so that tens of thousands of spirit children (including me and my posterity) who were waiting in heaven to come to mortality could do so in a loving environment. It was all about strong families and raising children in the gospel. There were other blessings, like providing immigrant women converts with stability (there was a lack of righteous men compared to women) and fostering tight-knit communities, but those were secondary IMO.

@KimballCall Genuinely interested to hear why you think it’s worth defending. I can’t think if any positives

@JakeO886 Strong opinions for someone who I’m guessing has never read firsthand accounts of plural marriage other than what he’s seen on Reddit.

@KimballCall Tough to defend or have a testimony of something that’s unjustifiable.

@Marianglican My polygamous ancestors knew Jesus better than you.

What about Joseph Smith's 40 arrests, marrying 14-year-olds, and his fake gold plates and fake Egyptian book? He is standing in between Mormons and Jesus. I pray your church will one day finally face this and remove him so you can truly learn and and be fully filled with Jesus's love.

@JordanBraginton You should probably go read some more Eliza R Snow. Everything you said is incorrect according to the early women of the church, not even the men.

@KimballCall Polygamy is mostly bad for women and society, and the circumstances surrounding its use in the early church were not justified. Which is not to say we didn't learn valuable lessons from it, or grow as a people because if it.

@benlusty Jesus literally policed faith his entire ministry, by your definition. He wasn’t a modern western hippie. He told people what to think and what to do if they wanted salvation and happiness.

@KimballCall Two things Jesus never said or required. I reject your ability to define my faith.