
Virtus Martialis
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Virtus Martialis
@MarsdanVM
I'm looking at Historic European Martial Arts, from manuscripts and trainers to sharp reproductions and antiques.
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@VeliteAquila @Firgilator This variation in armour is so nice, and how I imagine the period. Different tribes get their own colours.
And yep! In the Iliad:
Nestor, the aged, sage King of Pylos
Odysseus, cunning middle age man
Diomedes, King of Argos, formidable warrior
Achilles, unrivalled young athlete
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@Firgilator It's one of my fav reenactment images, it looks so authentic even if there's some period overlap. Kinda crazy how well everyone is "cast" lol, I've spoken to a few of the folks in the image as well.
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Don't try to "rule of cool" your way out of bad art direction. I'll say that Nolan has genuinely no obligation to be historically accurate but that doesn't justify the movie just looking boring.

doctor idk@bigmonkeong
fuck historical accuracy this goes hard as fuck
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@tommydragna @MarozzoEspa I have Superior Fencing impact resisted gloves.
They are fine as protections goes, but I don't feel my fingers for fine control. See the pinky in the 1st pic (no knuckle-bow to lock it in). It refuses to bend properly.
Thokk 350N I tried feel so much nicer, 50% more fun.


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@MarsdanVM @MarozzoEspa One of my guys has a pair of hardened gloves from Superior Fencing coming in soon (we hope). I'll definately post about his thoughts on the gloves.
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@niccblak And so do I... and we must keep doing it:
1. Not all museums have nice online catalogues, most don't.
2. Not all physical exponents are in that catalogued.
3. Angles! Sometimes, we want a particular angle.
But yeah, I want to highlight when nice online sources are available. 👍
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Remember the museum's webpage has better pictures of the collections that these photos made in person. US museums/galleries are quite good in this regard. Respect!👍
I want to look next at details.
(in Philadelphia Museum of Art, USA)


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@katuchimaon Longsword blade lengths are expected to be in the range: 90-105cm
Rapier blade are expected to be in the range: 100-115cm (130cm max)
So rapiers tend to be longer.
On weight, Italian rapiers can reach 1.5kg, but are more 1.3kg. Spanish cup-hilt rapiers are more 900-1.1kg.

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@AristotleIan7 The blade is 2.1cm at the base. At the tip, you still have some 1cm (visual estimate). That's enough, with speed to cut fingers.
At 890g, this is a light piece, and I expect a forward balance. Meaning, it should feel strong in the parry and bind, while nimble for the thrust.
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@MarsdanVM Oh Lord what a beauty! I think the blade geometry is absolutely perfect, thrust centered but looks like it can still cut an artery open no problem. Nice deep cup for an optimal and comfy grip. Simple yet made with patience. Wish I could hold it to know for sure.
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Blade made in Toledo by named master.
And like I say, nice pics from the collection's online gallery.
philamuseum.org/objects/71707
P.S. Search for: sword, rapier, armour... just that.👍


Virtus Martialis@MarsdanVM
Full view!
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@AristotleIan7 Yes, it's not just that it has perforations, there's tridimensionally to the cuts as well.
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@MarsdanVM Omg 😳 didn’t know it was this detailed till I clicked
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@gowronseyes @PoobahTheCat Respect the source! Are you too stupid to understand that? You are, aren't you?!
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The dudes who don't know that 300 is replicating a comic book think they actually know things.
Tim Spalding 🇺🇦@librarythingtim
The dudes who thought this a reasonable portrayal of the Achaemenid Persians are now crying foul at the accuracy of the Nolan's Odyssey.
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@gowronseyes @PoobahTheCat If "Nolan’s Odyssey was based on a comic book version of the story that had a black Helen" nobody would care about the movie, since they probably know what shitty comic he was using.
Frank Miller's 300 was famous, seen as one of the best! Not the same!
Respect Homer!
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@PoobahTheCat What difference does that make? Are you saying if Nolan’s Odyssey was based on a comic book version of the story that had a black Helen, you’d be fine with the casting? Can you be more full of shit?
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@PoobahTheCat Such a good adaptation!
Not one disingenuous change as Nolan is doing with the Odyssey.




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@PoobahTheCat A well-made adaptation... that's the point.
People who fail to get that 1) it's not based on history, but a famous comic book, and 2) it's faithful to its source, are disingenuous POS! 😤




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@PoobahTheCat Basically every panel on screen!
This is how you respect the source.
(Nolan has no respect for Homer's source)




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@BlackCat_Dandy Why don't people get that it's a comic book movie!
What is wrong with them? Nothing looks right from a historical perspective! Nothing! 😤
The movie is just great because it stayed true to its source, that's the key point here! It was amazing to see the panels on screen. 👍

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Tell me how Spartans are supposed to look like.
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The Real Brittany Guy@brittany_guy_rl
@BlackCat_Dandy Fictional. Character. Never. Existed. Born. In. An. Egg. From. Zeus. Pretending. To. Be. A. Swan.
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@MarozzoEspa @tommydragna Interesting! I mean, I will go for Thokks next, but I find this fascinating. 👍
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@MarsdanVM @tommydragna I have been using thokks for sidesword & rapier, but was able to try them a bit with my sidesword once (was allowed to do one sparring with them).
Maybe it's because they are like a perfect fit for me (I fall exactly at the M/L measurement), but they felt much better than my T.
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@KatieArmours You know that someone will read this, not know that you are joking, and will either A) take it for real, or B) question why a sword maker is saying this... 😂
You see where I am going with this. 😅
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@MarozzoEspa @tommydragna Black Prince (BP) Vs Thokk (T)
I want T, I like the dexterous feel, including when using swept hilt rapiers, not just sideswords.
I think I had a quick try of the BP. I don't feel the tip & sides of the fingers (for obvious reasons).
You say you find the BF feel to be better?
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@tommydragna @MarsdanVM For the black prince, I only tried it once.
They are slightly more dexterous and protective than thokk gloves but they are also less bulky.
Fit perfectly in my swept hilt sidesword.
People who’ve been using it are happy for sidesword, sabre, etc for mobility & protection
2/2
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@niccblak I actively refuse to get into the armour "game"!
Just European (another self-imposed limit) antique, sharp, and trainer swords are enough for me.
But I like armour. And there are some 5 types, maybe more, that I love. Posting all these pics made me more aware of what's what. 👍
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@TheCinesthetic The young annoying Henry Cavill one... I remember it.
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The Count of Monte Cristo (2002) is the kind of movie people randomly catch on TV once, then spend years recommending to everyone afterwards. The prison escape, the payoff, Guy Pearce’s performance … it’s just ridiculously satisfying.
cinesthetic.@TheCinesthetic
Name the movie you recommend the most to people.
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@otal_e Different hairstyle, naturally, appropriate makeup... but yes, she would work.
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Desculpem-me, mas eu não vejo outra pessoa como Atena


Culture Crave 🍿@CultureCrave
Zendaya is playing Athena in 'The Odyssey' ⚔️ The goddess of wisdom and war
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