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@Sam__SFC

@SouthamptonFC till I die

Katılım Şubat 2020
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Sam
Sam@Sam__SFC·
@inrictus Every fanbase has people like that. There isn't a club in the country who wouldn't have fans saying that stuff. Most of us are of the view we should be punished but if all that's proven is an isolated incident then kicking us out is ridiculously disproportionate
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Ry@inrictus·
@Sam__SFC The few are quite loud then and seem to call into every live media outlet to suggest otherwise
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Ry@inrictus·
Absolute delusional We understand Saints beat Boro, we understand Saints were the better team, we understand that Boro shouldn’t be in the final. But Saints literally spied on Boro. Not maybe, not alleged, 100% made the decision to spy on Boro on the eve of a playoff game. That is what is unlawful and that is what needs to be punished.
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Ash@AshleyBailez94·
@mikewhitesport @jameshoggarth What happens in that respect if they are removed, would Boro replace them or are we playing on our own because as great as it is going to Wembley it be a bit weird against one club plus Southampton are selling tickets to it
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Mike White@mikewhitesport·
Middlesbrough have released a statement expressing their disappointment at not being able to intervene in the disciplinary process against Southampton. The Teesiders have called on the EFL to remove the south coast club from the Championship playoff final. #hcafc
Middlesbrough FC@Boro

A statement from the club.

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Alex
Alex@AlexComber_·
@PaulAntonybell Yeah definitely will in Champ. More in Prem than likes of Bournemouth, Brentford
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Alex@AlexComber_·
Whatever league #SaintsFC are in next season, they will have to deal with new SCR (squad cost ratio) rules, after 20/24 Championship clubs voted yes to it. Means 85% of revenue can be spent on player costs, but it's another rule that appears to have ways of surpassing it.
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Sam@Sam__SFC·
@LukesElliott @Strickland__Ben I don't think Boro would or should have suspended Hellberg a week before the play off final when he's not been found guilty of anything, that would be crazy. We've still got a game of football to play yet
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Luke Elliott@LukesElliott·
@Sam__SFC @Strickland__Ben I’m not interested what Southampton have or haven’t done, I was talking about if we had been in the same situation and what I think would have happened.
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Ben@Strickland__Ben·
Easy to say, but I can say confidently that if the shoe was on the other foot; I’d be appalled and would have no complaints if Boro were kicked from the playoffs if we did this
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Sam@Sam__SFC·
@LukesElliott @Strickland__Ben We don't know people haven't been suspended for a fact though, the club is hardly going to drip feed us info from the investigation. I also think it's wholly unreasonable to ask the club to suspend Eckert for example before we've concluded he's guilty a week before the final
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Luke Elliott@LukesElliott·
@Sam__SFC @Strickland__Ben That’s what employment law is for. Suspension pending investigation, it’s simple stuff really. I’m sure it’ll all come out… some of us will be right and some will be wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Sam@Sam__SFC·
@crappyhiker2016 Boro have been allowed to submit their alleged whistleblower statement and whatever evidence they've got about other clubs, they just don't get to directly use it to make their case (because it isn't their case, it's the EFL's)
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Crappy Hiker@crappyhiker2016·
@Sam__SFC Im not sure all of it will - since the original complaint was made more info has come to light, doesnt look as though any of that will be presented.
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Sam@Sam__SFC·
Listen, IF it is proven we've done this all season then we can have no complaints when kicked out. What said I hope we fucking bury them in lawsuits and steal promotion anyway #SaintsFC
SaintsExtra@SaintsExtra

🚨 Middlesbrough are thought to have evidence that suggests last week was not an isolated incident – this includes a statement from a whistleblower at Southampton who has alleged that spying on opposition teams was a regular occurrence this season #saintsfc @LukeEdwardsTele

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Sam@Sam__SFC·
@LukesElliott @Strickland__Ben This would be fair comment except it's an ongoing investigation and there is a very god chance people lose their jobs over this. We're not done with out internal review yet
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Luke Elliott@LukesElliott·
@Strickland__Ben If it happened, those who organised or instructed it would have been removed from their positions. That’s the biggest thing that has got me over this… someone has planned it and they as a club are accepting that it’s happened. Zero integrity or accountability.
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Sam@Sam__SFC·
@crappyhiker2016 Not necessarily. Boro were never going to get a say it's standard practice but their written evidence will still be considered
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Crappy Hiker@crappyhiker2016·
@Sam__SFC EFL not allowing Boro a say at the hearing means it will probably be confined to the one incident and Saints will get away with it
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Baz Cooper@bazdjcooper·
@joe_grassham My gut feeling as of this morning is that the game goes ahead next Saturday as planned. That said, until late last night, I was prepared for it to be moved.
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Sam@Sam__SFC·
@alexcmfc @priv_756 I do actually think there's a danger whoever plays the final is so chuffed that they're there they forget that Hull aren't a bunch of part timers but also desparately want to go up
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alex@alexcmfc·
@Sam__SFC @priv_756 The worst case scenario for us is getting reinstated and then losing again. Would far rather you went up than that.
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alex@alexcmfc·
Regardless of how Southampton get punished, I’d be shocked if the EFL don’t change the rules after this to make future spying breaches an instant X point deduction or exclusion from the playoffs (if relevant). They’ll be desperate to avoid this kind of shambles happening again.
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Sam@Sam__SFC·
@Ant_Dale86 @tom7lawrence @henrywinter He 100% will have known. The quesiton for me is was he the instigator who came up with and sanctioned the idea (sack and ban him) or was this imposed from above and he was just told "Will's going to film Boro" (a genuine apology would do)
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Ant@Ant_Dale86·
@Sam__SFC @tom7lawrence @henrywinter Let’s say the club gets a big fine(I don’t think expulsion is likely) then IF they are found to of broken the rules then surely that brings the club into disrepute. That’s if he knew about it that is
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Sam@Sam__SFC·
@alexcmfc @priv_756 Guilty yes but guilty of what exactly? Saints aren't even contesting the charge of illegal filming so well done, you've got evidence of something we've admitted if that's all.
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alex@alexcmfc·
@Sam__SFC @priv_756 The part about Boro being “very confident” is hard to doubt. It’s clear they’ve got enough evidence to find you guilty. But anyone trying to speculate about what punishment is likely or expected is just waffling.
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Sam@Sam__SFC·
@alexcmfc @priv_756 Yeah I am pretty firm in my view that Boro going to the final would be totally undeserved - even if we're generational cheats we beat you. If there was time you'd make Boro/Millwall play one leg but given there isn't the fair thing in that world would be letting Hull up.
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alex@alexcmfc·
@Sam__SFC @priv_756 If that’s the case then we’ve got a situation where you’re trying to fluke promotion based on an immoral legal case, and we’re trying to fluke promotion on a technicality despite losing on the pitch 😂
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Sam@Sam__SFC·
@priv_756 @alexcmfc No you try and pull the most scammy, immoral and outrageously baseless legal case to fluke a promotion you don't deserve if that's the situation
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TT1@priv_756·
@Sam__SFC @alexcmfc I don’t think I’d even bother arguing if that’s the case,if it’s been done on numerous occasions we are cheats and have to accept it
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Sam@Sam__SFC·
@alexcmfc @priv_756 I can't look at the statement and everything I heard and saw yesterday and think there's no way we're kicked out
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Sam@Sam__SFC·
@alexcmfc @priv_756 I mean the Luke Edwards/Dom Shaw/Craig Hope etc North East journo stuff is blatant propaganda, I'm sure it's not all bollocks but clearly just what Boro want us to think. Saints not briefing anyone far as I can tell means we're hiding stuff/not confident imo.
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