DabsoluteDeclan

@Carra23 @CDEccleshare Arsenal have rivalries with all the other top 6 clubs, Spurs and Chelsea being London based, United City and Liverpool from direct competition. There’s no deep rooted history with City, of course other fans prefer them, they can forget about it in 5 minutes

@CDEccleshare It’s not really about city but teams who dominate trophies….I’ve never seen a challenger so disliked! Which I don’t agree with, that’s basically the column.

It’s not bizarre at all, you say ‘rooting’ for City which I totally understand they don’t provoke the same feelings as others, but people aren’t rooting for City, they WANT them to beat Arsenal! That’s the difference. The column looks at why. Thanks for bringing more traffic👍

@DarrenArsenal1 Name amnesty would make sense for next season if such big changes are implemented. Many circumstances will have changed since the last one

And coming down the road will be an ID requirement for memberships, which will help fight the criminal bot activity that is emanating in the main from other countries

Tickets has never been more exhausting. So be aware between now and end of the season, it will get more targeted. All European aways are likely to be full collection. Next round FAC... await draw City away will likely be partial targeting Palace will be full collection

@Cfcjoeyyy @__clock_wnd_ @SlNoto @ZKTHFC Peace Hamas need to disarm, and they themselves are saying they’ve agreed to, why fight a battle they aren’t themselves?

@Cfcjoeyyy @__clock_wnd_ @SlNoto @ZKTHFC I don’t think it’s fair to make a comparison to multiple independent states declaring war on another independent state vs a terror group which of course should be wiped out. You can have Palestinian self determination without Hamas, you do in the West Bank with the PA. If for

@Cfcjoeyyy @__clock_wnd_ @SlNoto @ZKTHFC Doesn’t seem sensible imo. Reality is neither side is going anywhere. Yes rebuilding gaza should come above all else for now, but in an ideal world, that is done, and we can see peace

@Cfcjoeyyy @__clock_wnd_ @SlNoto @ZKTHFC The facts are Israel came to exist, and we still have another group of people with a claim to the land without independence. Each side has terrible stories to tell but to put those above what could be modern day efforts to build bridges and create a real and better future for all

@Cfcjoeyyy @__clock_wnd_ @SlNoto @ZKTHFC Way a very similar number of Jews were displaced from Arab countries (850k), I can view that as a terrible act but not deem Syria or Lebanon or Iraq today as responsible for what happened then, separate from the many wars that have occurred since

@Cfcjoeyyy @__clock_wnd_ @SlNoto @ZKTHFC Defensive war in terms of legality. In terms of the terrible things that happened to many Palestinians afterwards, of course it’s indefensible, but it can’t be put solely on the shoulders of Israel when many were told to vacate and return when the Jews were killed. In the same

@Cfcjoeyyy @SlNoto @__clock_wnd_ Proportionally higher rate than any other group in this country, which is sadly a fact

@Cfcjoeyyy @SlNoto @__clock_wnd_ Completely agree but it’s also situation dependent. If we’re out in the streets wearing kippot and tzitzit lot of that privilege disappears depending on who you encounter. I don’t believe it’s a fair point to make when discussing people who have suffered hate crimes at a

@Cfcjoeyyy @__clock_wnd_ @SlNoto @ZKTHFC Out that it can’t be simplified down to a rejection of the UN plan or even the creation of the state itself

@Cfcjoeyyy @__clock_wnd_ @SlNoto @ZKTHFC One group over another - unless of course you have two sides who actually want to live peacefully with each other, in which case one of the peace plans pre UN, UN itself, or since then would have been implanted. I’m not pinning the blame on either side here, I’m just pointing

@Cfcjoeyyy @SlNoto @__clock_wnd_ Anything like ‘this is so much worse than what X group of people face’. Why would you pit minorities against each other, especially when as I said the facts of how high statistically of a problem this is are there regardless of personal experiences

@Cfcjoeyyy @SlNoto @__clock_wnd_ It depends, we aren’t out in the streets visibly Jewish but there are those that are and face much higher levels of discomfort than we do. I have heard terrible things from Jews like that who have faced abuse, we literally had Jews murdered last week but I am never going to say

@Cfcjoeyyy @__clock_wnd_ @SlNoto @ZKTHFC But the mandate had existed for decades before UN partition. And most importantly regardless of how it got to that point, there are two groups with viable claims to the land, were offered peace, and one side accepted. That is a fact regardless of all that followed.

@__clock_wnd_ @DabsoluteDeclan @SlNoto @ZKTHFC I’m saying what happened to my knowledge. If the mandate had stayed and the UN negotiated more with the Arabs at the time, who knows, no blood may have been spilled at all.

@Cfcjoeyyy @SlNoto @__clock_wnd_ I get that and I respect what you’re saying, I’d just advise to be careful with how you speak about antisemitism and saying things like you’ve never heard of it happen to any British Jews, because plenty of us have heard it happen to plenty of people

@DabsoluteDeclan @SlNoto @__clock_wnd_ I do and I speak about it almost on a daily basis. The entire context to this thread was the antisemitism. Completely agree with what you are saying here. I dont believe myself to be downplaying it at all and every step i have urged how vile it is.

@Cfcjoeyyy @__clock_wnd_ @SlNoto @ZKTHFC The events unfolded. And yes once a war was started terrible things happened on all sides as it does with war but there were missed opportunities for peace and war was chosen instead

@Cfcjoeyyy @__clock_wnd_ @SlNoto @ZKTHFC Military had gone in with the aim to push the Arabs into the sea I’d be able to condemn that personally, which was the situation on the ground. Yes there were both many complex years leading up to the UN vote and you can argue whether it was right but ultimately these are how