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@EveKeneinan virtue ethics doesnt excuse bad choices it judges them. aristotle would say staying w a rapist is vice not virtue. stop hiding behind greek labels and address the actual behavior
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Yes, dear child, since women are rational creatures, they can be held accountable for their actions.
That is what I said.
You are the one denying that women may be held accountable — and yet at the same time trying to hold them accountable.
Only one of us has a coherent position.
And Aristotle says that all human beings are rational, by nature, but not typically very good at it.
There is neither a contradiction here nor any kind of special marking out of women.
Human beings possess, by nature, the power of reason, λόγος.
In actual human beings, most human beings are bad at reasoning.
You are bad it, for example, since you are both denying that women have moral agency and yet want to held them accountable for their moral actions.
You are bad at reasoning at reasoning because you think you have discovered a "special exception" for women in my previous post, which does not exist.
You are bad at reasoning because you think it is "funny" for me to "give women credit" using Aristotle, when I am saying the same thing that Aristotle did. There is clearly nothing contradictory with giving women the same credit Aristotle does ... within Aristotle's framework.
You have failed the very basics of reading comprehension.
Even your original response was a failure of reasoning, showing again, that you are bad at it:
You argued that "because women often behave irrationally as human beings, they cannot be said to be rational according to their nature."
But that is false, and the opposite of what Aristotle says and what I explained to you: nothing about having a rational NATURE makes one skilled at reasoning, no more than being a MORAL AGENT by nature, one who deliberates and choses and acts according to good and evil, makes one VIRTUOUS.
Do you understand this basic truth?
Being rational beings doesn't mean people are good at reasoning, only that it defines their nature. Even fools and idiots think and reason (if badly). Animals do not.
Being moral agents doesn't mean all people are virtuous, only that moral choice defines their existence. Even villains and reprobates make moral choices (badly). Animals do not.
You have said something manifestly foolish every time you have engaged me so far.
I would take the L and quit if I were you.
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You just said women are rational then immediately ignored the decades of data showing women stay with abusers, rapists, and deadbeats for emotional reasons not logic. rationality flies out the window when attachment is involved.
Eve Keneinan 𝛗☦️ن@EveKeneinan
Fortunately, women are rational creatures, not rabid animals, and can be morally expected not to murder someone to get them out of her way.
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@EveKeneinan and no ur original post said "women are rational creatures" then when i pointed out irrational behavior u pivoted to "rational by nature not practice" which is fine but thats a retreat not a refutation dumb bitch
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@EveKeneinan the aristotle thing was you quoting him for credibility while ignoring his actual views on women. thats not a reading comprehension fail thats you being selective you dumb bitch
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@EveKeneinan 12 paragraphs to agree with me like a dumb bitch lmfao
i said women are responsible for their choices u said i was denying agency then proved my point by saying theyre accountable. ur arguing against a ghost dumb bitch
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@EveKeneinan aristotle literally defined man as rational animal and he definitely didnt carve out an exception for women so you quoting him while arguing women are special case is hilarious. he thought women were defective males btw. using his framework to give women moral credit is funny
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Allow me to instruct you.
When I say that women are rational, I mean they are, by virtue of human nature, rational animals, ζῷα λόγον ἔχοντα, as per Aristotle.
This has nothing to do with whether women are particularly successful in exercising their rationality.
What it does mean is that women are not animals "gnawing their own legs off," but moral agents who are responsible for their actions.
God's commandment "you shall not murder" actually applies to both men and women.
Unless your case is literally that women have no moral agency whatever and therefore can never be held responsible for their actions or guilty of a crime?
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ur literally proving the point lmfao u say women dont see porn as competition then immediately pivot to "the woman u lust for sees u as cattle" which is... competition framing. u cant stop thinking about male desire because ur entire self worth is baked into being desired
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@noitoc7 @sadsadlady_ You are insane if you think anyone but the lowest self esteem women are going to see porn as “competition”. We know the woman that you’re desperately lusting for sees you as faceless cattle (can’t blame her) & doesn’t care if you live or die.
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@sadsadlady_ i dont care about victims i never met and neither do you. You only pretend to care when it helps you shame men ur performative outrage its just narcissism handle ur own emotional labor
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@noitoc7 Looking at your page you don’t care about “actual rape victims” anyways. Get a job
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@sadsadlady_ "rape culture" is when you redefine consensual acts as violence so you can feel oppressed. actual rape victims don't need you diluting their trauma to win a twitter argument
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@noitoc7 I hate porn because it is rape culture and is either directly abusing women in the videos themselves or leads to women being abused. Men will always have an “option” since they regularly fuck infants animals and corpses.
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@sadsadlady_ so you just admitted porn filters out men you dont want anyway which means it helps you but ur still mad about it. almost like you hate that men have an option that doesnt involve begging you for attention. You disgust is entitlement dressed up as morality. handle that
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@noitoc7 Well no it’s not competition because any man who watches porn immediately disgusts me and isn’t a decent suitor to begin with
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@just_oliveira16 @LizzyStarrrdust she said the absence causes the warp and the warp is unsexy i said the absence isn't inherently unsexy the warp is
those are different causal claims hers is indirect causation mine is direct
if you can't see the difference that's not my reading comprehension problem
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@noitoc7 @LizzyStarrrdust She literally made the exact same argument you just made. She says, “The warp is decidedly unsexy”. That’s exactly what she said. I think it’s just a reading comprehension issue on your end.
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@LizzyStarrrdust her point was that absence of traits warps the psyche
my point is the warp is the unattractive part not the absence itself
those aren't the same
she blames the lack i blame the reaction to the lack
if she meant what i said she would have said it
but she didn't
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@RealGuyOfficial @Uplink01 @EXINE_the_1 Ur slow the announcement trailer is literally the first marketing impression it's not irrelevant it's the thesis
if they wanted to establish her as a standalone protagonist they would have led with that
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@noitoc7 @Uplink01 @EXINE_the_1 Brother, the game was JUST announced, the "marketing" is a singular fucking few minute video and some screenshots.
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@RealGuyOfficial @Uplink01 @EXINE_the_1 i didn't switch points u just can't track criticizing a premise is not the same as criticizing the final writing
a premise can be bad regardless of execution because it's a structural foundation
u said i can't criticize writing before the game releases i agreed
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