@muzzledchick @radfemma straps and dildos are only superficially like dicks, many don't resemble dicks at all even. TW have real dicks that are attached to male people, that is not something any lesbian would be ok with.
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@normalusernamei @radfemma ?? Because it does but I never said a vagina is just a spot for a dick? Like what
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no, we view you as what you are: male. stop with the fanfiction trying to act like our pushback is about anything other than entitled males violating womens rights
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Transphobes do not view trans women as men. They just don’t. They view us as “other.” They view us as creatures who they can abuse and sexualise without consequences. They view us in whatever way is convenient to them and they hate that we fight to be seen as equal.
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@the39guy @SpunkTurtle @spiderking232 @NTXChub @mattxiv Nah, a lot of people are so radicalized that it can be very easy to assume that everyone that disagrees with you on something is as radical as the loud ones.
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@normalusernamei @SpunkTurtle @spiderking232 @NTXChub @mattxiv I think it is too!
I hope you're able to find a way to voice your views in a way that makes it easier to tell from the get-go that you're not as close-minded as most of these ppl are. Sorry if that sounds like shade, I don't mean it that way I promise
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he didn’t ask a question, he said “your father the best” while filming the daughter of the most publicly abusive father in the world. he’s lucky all she did was walk away imo
TMZ@TMZ
Elon Musk's daughter Vivian Wilson storms out of interview after being asked a question about him. tmz.me/43Q2Duy 🎥: Getty
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@muzzledchick @radfemma You did, you say straps ons represent and fill in the spot for a dick.
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@normalusernamei @radfemma I didn't call it that at all where did you get that from you schizo 😭 Women who use strap one are lesbians, and girls who have dicks are also lesbian
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@the39guy @SpunkTurtle @spiderking232 @NTXChub @mattxiv I have seen some radfems stubbornly insist on calling Brianna Wu "john." That behavior seems very childish to me.
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@normalusernamei @SpunkTurtle @spiderking232 @NTXChub @mattxiv To be clear, that's my best interpretation of their belief, not what they stated outright.
But that's how it seems to be for most transphobes honestly
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@muzzledchick @radfemma You can put a finger in a vagina and that doesn't make it "represent a dick" neither does using plastic to get more pressure. and also calling a vagina the "spot for a dick" is EXTREMELY misogynistic.
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@normalusernamei @radfemma But they still represent and fill in the spot for a dick.
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@radfemma Gender identity is repackaged sex stereotypes that people have deeply internalized.
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meanwhile TRAs always telling me that “trans people actually reject gender!” when i say they’re the biggest supporters, validators, and legitimizers of the sexist, regressive garbage that gender is
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yesterday was talking abt gender to my cis friend and holy shit it really is like this
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@muzzledchick @radfemma They aren't dicks, a dick is a male reproductive organ. Strap ons are plastic.
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@normalusernamei @radfemma So lesbians who use strap-ons and dildos aren't homosexuals? Those're dicks too.
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@normalusernamei @SpunkTurtle @spiderking232 @NTXChub @mattxiv Nah that doesn't really track imo, TERFs are usually pretty strongly transphobic in all ways they can be.
In another thread I'm actually getting at that w someone, like they'll respect name changes UNLESS AND ONLY UNLESS that person is trans, THEN they're stuck with it for life
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@the39guy @SpunkTurtle @spiderking232 @NTXChub @mattxiv There is "terf" infighting among the pronoun thing too. People who refuse to ever call someone by pronouns other than based on sex are called "Ultras."
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@normalusernamei @SpunkTurtle @spiderking232 @NTXChub @mattxiv Again, the lesbian term discussion is a complete mess, I really wouldn't concern yourself w that bc LGBT folk do NOT agree on it
If you can respect their name and pronouns (assuming you'd also use those pronouns when talking to another person abt them), you're better than most.
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@normalusernamei @StellarFox16 @grok Given simply using a restroom carries the same prison time as assaulting someone with a knife in the US, virtually all that data is moot.
The rest doesn't support your claim enough to where I would demand individual risk assessment during sentencing be banned
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Yeah - men get caught with csam and get caught raping children.
The difference is, their child victims aren’t forced to call men who rape them women - and the men don’t get a free pass to rape in women’s prisons because they self-id as trans.
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@muzzledchick @radfemma Every lesbian who is actually a lesbian will reject anybody with a penis, that is what makes them lesbians. It is female homosexuality.
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@normalusernamei @radfemma Transsexuals know they can be rejected by gay/lesbians because of their genitalia but that doesn't mean they can't be gay and/or lesbian. Not every lesbian will reject a trans woman, and not every gay will reject a trans man. It's all about type and preference.
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@the39guy @SpunkTurtle @spiderking232 @NTXChub @mattxiv Thank you, I don't hate trans identified people, I used ID as one (never medicalized though). I know a lot of people are struggling with gender roles and body dysmorphia, I just don't think trans identification is the solution and I think it has a negative impact on womens rights
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@normalusernamei @SpunkTurtle @spiderking232 @NTXChub @mattxiv Talking trans stuff is so extremely polarized that there's hardly anyone willing to put down their offense to discuss with someone else who fundamentally disagrees with them. To the point where a bridge can hardly be built.
I think more ppl being transparent like you would help
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@Smoolie_23 @StellarFox16 @grok I KEEP SAYING THEY ARE NOT IN PRISON FOR PROSTITUTION. Even streetwalkers aren't imprisoned in sweden, it was not a criminal offense to sell sex (I think buyers and pimps may still have been charged). In canada it works the same way.
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@normalusernamei @StellarFox16 @grok Your argument is that they have male PATTERN criminality
Yet, the types of crimes and overall rate of offense (when SES is accounted for) are widlly different.
Yall demand it be illegal for them to work, they become poor, more crime. Offsetting that natural difference.
Duh
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@Smoolie_23 @StellarFox16 @grok I agree there is not enough data to say we know FOR SURE, but since there are so few studies on transwomen offending rates we have to make do with what we have, and what we shows male pattern offending in pretty much all the studies.
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@normalusernamei @StellarFox16 @grok Dhejne is literally an all cause mortality, general population study. Thats simply incorrect.
Legal prostitution doesn't mean you can just walk to the sidewalk corner and start charging Johns. You need to be at a licensed brothel, its more complicated
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@the39guy @SpunkTurtle @spiderking232 @NTXChub @mattxiv I still call trans people what they want when I'm in person with them, it just fundamentally doesn't change their sex and I think laws should be organized around sex (and also males can't be lesbians).
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@normalusernamei @SpunkTurtle @spiderking232 @NTXChub @mattxiv I've never heard that first part from an anti-trans before, so hey points for transparency bc I think most others would not admit that.
But could you please answer me why you were arguing against different pronouns in the first place then? If it's not rly that problematic to you
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@Smoolie_23 @StellarFox16 @grok Your rebuttals have been straight up wrong most of the time. I am using the best data available on the trans prison population, I agree more studies should be done though.
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@normalusernamei @StellarFox16 @grok And all cause mortality prospective study is not sufficiently accurate to make these claims.
You'll notice all of my rebuttals are far too specific and are not things that dejine measured
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@Smoolie_23 @StellarFox16 @grok No? these are all studies done on prison populations, not people being given a fine for prostitution (which is usually what is done in the US). And also sweden hasn't imprisoned prostitutes for a long time, even back when that study was done.
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@normalusernamei @StellarFox16 @grok It's a sex offense.. and you guys are using sex offense rates..
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@the39guy @SpunkTurtle @spiderking232 @NTXChub @mattxiv Ultimately pronouns are the least problematic part about trans ideology. The problem is insisting that males are women and that they need access to all female spaces like changing rooms and such. And the entire thing with them saying lesbians can like dick.
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@normalusernamei @SpunkTurtle @spiderking232 @NTXChub @mattxiv Name change is fine then?
I just don't understand why denying the pronouns they wish to use is so damn important to you.
Your brain can't handle the idea of calling someone with a penis a she? That's not "biology" that's just you being unwilling to change your social constructs
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