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Nitsuh Abebe
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Nitsuh Abebe
@ntabebe
magazine editor. email grammarlog @ gmail. save your speeches, flowers are for funerals
New York, NY Entrou em Ekim 2010
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Don't know, but it was certainly not in the 21st century.
Alex Moskowitz@alexrmoskowitz
what was your indiest moment? mine was probably seeing andrew bird play that free show in prospect park in like 2011
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@alienvsrobbins @J_Zuckerman i’m sorry, you expect me to believe a piece of paper over some guy with a computer?? (no but i did eventually find a PDF of the source cited and it does say NJ)
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@ntabebe @J_Zuckerman wiki, as i tell my students, is not a trustworthy source. Holmes explains why the family was in the American colonies, so they'd have had to ship back to England for their son's birth. obviously whoever edited this thought someone else had made a mistake about which Newark
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@en_cohen ack dude you remind someone of this song on boxing day and now i’m gonna go become a paramedic
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@dada_drummer sure — though i genuinely like what the recording was trying to do here! i suspect that’s because i’m more of an 80s college-jangle/new-wave/anglophile guy than a rawk’n’roll guy, and have no issue with Tim sounding a little like the UK stuff Sire put out that year (or Dramarama)
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@MarkRichardson i’m sure you know most of these songs already, but when they’re back to back i think the sonic profiles are clearer. honestly i should have just told you to revisit “meat is murder” and do some A/B tests / search for andy rourke on “what she said” !
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@MarkRichardson this'll take forever but i'll do you a mix. not soundalikes, just the mid-80s left-of-dial context in which, to me, it sits pretty naturally
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@ntabebe I hear you on this & I'm generally v. skeptical of remixes like this, but to me the original didn't sound "1985" so much as just badly done, actually in a very unique way that isn't "dated" as much as "wrong"; I'm struggling to think of another mid-80s record that sounds like Tim
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@emsuerob honestly not sure what could be more striking than Fido Dido on a 2023 magazine cover
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@elite_gz i may well obsess about this; so far, looking for 1969 metrics, it seems possible a tom jones live album was somehow certified gold faster than abbey road? though the RIAA records are … weird. anyway: LOVE yr column (and music!) and will update if i learn anything useful here
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@ntabebe am very interested in the economics of the record biz of that time period and the question of how to compare a sale of the white album at the equivalent of $60 in 2023 money to the way music is consumed now. would love to read the results if you do end up looking into the numbers
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@elite_gz and, of course, deeper partisans lined up to publish deep thoughts about the end-of-60s rock canon than Diana Ross, Tom Jones, the Jackson 5, Andy Williams, etc. — but maybe i should double-check the numbers to make sure i’m not swallowing a rockist underdog story here!
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@elite_gz i mean, agreed that hit singles are a tossed-off metric, but i think there are two very different lanes of cultural domination here, with the narrower rock/album one tending to perceive actual *celebrity* in the broader pop/radio one
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@elite_gz which is not to say they weren't huge, just that it's in the album-canon lane that poptism, in theory, hopes to get beyond by considering what more people listen to in the moment: motown singles, neil diamond, streisand, lots of stuff
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@elite_gz this feels off to me: the artists he talks to were not necessarily hitmakers! stevie wonder has 10 number ones, which is 10 times as many as the who, springsteen, & dylan combined. honestly a poptimist look at the era would probably involve talking to the carpenters & osmonds too
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