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@soothlayer

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karl me maybe@soothlayer·
As things get worse and worse and worse, our revolutionary optimism should grow. It's when the people relent to despair that communists come in and revitalize them with revolutionary fury and optimism. That's your whole mission as a communist.
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@PolPot114514_ China’s caution isn’t socialist; it’s developmentalist. Every capitalist state in history has said "we must finish national construction first." It’s a bourgeois argument, not Marxism
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karl me maybe@soothlayer·
Let's talk about China's "non-interventionism." China intervenes when its capital is threatened. Examples: military base in Djibouti, pressure on Pakistan to protect CPEC, backing multiple factions in Myanmar to secure pipelines, militarizing the South China Sea to control trade
Maitreya Bhakal@MaitreyaBhakal

China did not use its veto because the issue does not affect its national interest directly, like say a resolution on Taiwan would, which China would've prevented even from being tabled, let alone vetoed it. China is fundamentally not an interventionist country, and does not wish to set the slightest precedent or expectation in that direction. Hope this helps.

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🌈Camarada Arcoíris@ComradeRainbows·
@soothlayer You have declared war on me 😡, this shall not go unpunished, I'll look for the cringiest post-national marxist on the internet as retaliation.
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karl me maybe@soothlayer·
These MLs descended into the most pitiful kind of liberal campist cope when I pointed out Madeline Pendleton was one of theirs xD
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@RedFrontTweeter @tovarischrex AES is ONLY an ML position. No other Marxist believes in AES. Madeline is an explicit anti-imperialist and there is no such thing as a "liberal world-systems theory." She supports what she considers periphery states against core imperialism. You're just making up nonsense.
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Red Redford📕🇵🇸
Red Redford📕🇵🇸@RedFrontTweeter·
@soothlayer @tovarischrex AES is not an ML position, Madeline supports imperialism and the world systems theory that Madeline supports is the reactionary, liberal one, not a Marxist one
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karl me maybe@soothlayer·
@tovarischrex You can't even materially define scientific socialism. You're the exact same kind of confused Hegelian she is.
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Rex ☭ 🇵🇸🍁🔻
Rex ☭ 🇵🇸🍁🔻@tovarischrex·
@soothlayer You don’t have a tendency to speak of, nothing but petty bourgeois intellectual slop, just the inverse of Madeline’s. Nothing arbitrary about differentiating revisionism from socialism.
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karl me maybe@soothlayer·
@tovarischrex different organizing principles of production. If you can’t define the socialist MOP without using Hegelian abstractions like "socialised" or "collectivised," then you’re a Hegelian same as her
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@tovarischrex Socialised/collectivised MOP’ is not a materialist definition of a mode of production. That’s just a moral description of what you want it to be. A material distinction requires: different property relations, different relations of labor, different forms of surplus extraction,
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@tovarischrex Bad faith? You apply an arbitrary purity test bc you hate the idea some bourgeois mouthpiece could be associated with your tendency, but everything you've written is just a cope.
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Rex ☭ 🇵🇸🍁🔻
Rex ☭ 🇵🇸🍁🔻@tovarischrex·
@soothlayer No it isn’t lmao, great job being a bad faith interlocutor just pigeonholing their own definition of ML into everyone.
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@tovarischrex You don't even know the difference between the capitalist and socialist modes of production. You're a Hegelian. Same as her.
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Rex ☭ 🇵🇸🍁🔻
Rex ☭ 🇵🇸🍁🔻@tovarischrex·
@soothlayer Explain how Stalin supported state capitalism, as the guy who literally ended the state capitalist NEP.
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@tovarischrex – national sovereignty politics That’s the core of modern ML praxis. Ironically you're being campist yourself.
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karl me maybe@soothlayer·
@tovarischrex You’re not giving a material argument, you’re just listing which sub-sect of ML dogma you personally prefer. Madeline supports: – AES – China as socialist – campist "anti-imperialism" – world-systems rhetoric – party-led development – state-led industrialization
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karl me maybe@soothlayer·
@tovarischrex I’m not going by what any group calls itself. I’m going by the material positions they defend. If supporting state capitalism disqualifies someone from being an ML, then Stalin wasn’t an ML either 🙃
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Rex ☭ 🇵🇸🍁🔻
Rex ☭ 🇵🇸🍁🔻@tovarischrex·
@soothlayer If we’re going by what most of X group calls themselves then you must also acknowledge that since most self-described Marxists are revisionists, marxism is revisionism. On why she isn’t an ML, it’s because she supports reformism and state capitalism -
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karl me maybe@soothlayer·
@tovarischrex I don't keep anyone from calling themselves what they want. I explain why they aren't what they say they are. You have yet to actually explain why the positions she holds are inconsistent with the positions most MLs hold, such as AES, anti-imperialism, world-systems theory, etc.
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karl me maybe@soothlayer·
@ymrehh • DPRK: explicit nationalist ideology (Juche). • Vietnam/Cuba: national development, national accumulation, national industry.
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karl me maybe
karl me maybe@soothlayer·
@ymrehh It’s literally the empirical record of every ML state: • USSR: national developmentalism, national security doctrine, nationalized capital accumulation. • PRC: national capital, national bourgeoisie, national markets, national industrial policy.
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karl me maybe@soothlayer·
@ymrehh national capital. Material reality > ideological self-description
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@ymrehh This is like when fascists say they’re "anti-capitalist." Sure, ideologically. In praxis they strengthen capitalism. Same with MLs: you can say "proletarian internationalism," but the historical praxis of every ML state has been nationalism, state-building, and defending
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