I love it when Indie devs succeed but What I hate is when one dev succeeds and all of a sudden they turn into a guru and a know it all. And all their advice boils down to copy the popular thing.

@CodeRed_dev Choo choo charles creator

@CodeRed_dev This seems supiciously specific

@CodeRed_dev Paddle paddle paddle

@CodeRed_dev The issue is often that worked for them was hyper specific to their situation. The exact timing, the exact thing they made and hiw they made it. Some things are definitely applicable for more people, but there are so many random factors that you can't teach

@CodeRed_dev yes 😭 I love seeing indie devs win I do not love the immediate transformation into mountain sage of market wisdom like please… you made one banger you were not handed the tablets from the game dev gods

@CodeRed_dev Its been a while since I've seen indie dev gurus. They were very popular during the steam greenlight days.

@CodeRed_dev True, being successful for a moment doesn't automatically make you a success and master of everything but auto hypnosis is there... You can use same tools,methods,marketing... but your product is still subject to same unpredictable factors (views, luck, timing, long term reach).

@CodeRed_dev get the course they drop shipped or just get on X and follow the latest advice? hmmm..

And they are actually a example of what to do right because they were successful. This aint just for games, business do the same thing. But if this is about antonio then we have a problem on that example, because his games arent even successfull and he is just bitter he now answers to a publisher, and they wont greenlight all his shit ideas so he geets mad and tweets about it.

@CodeRed_dev My favorite indie dev advice are the ones that start with "Step 1: Grow a massive Youtube following"

@CodeRed_dev That's why I love Eric Barone. "I add things to stardew valley because sometimes I'm playing it, and think 'Oh, I wish I could do that in this game' and then I remember I made it, so I can make it happen" Dude just made a game he thought would be fun, and keeps adding fun things

@CodeRed_dev Literally as a recommended tweet I got a thread from a viral indie dev doing exactly this. Like thanks dude, Ill be sure to go viral too?

@CodeRed_dev Lets be fair, being an indie dev is NOT only about 'succeeding'. If you can find a way to keep making what you want to make, while maintaining an income that keeps you going. you are good. What is success to you?

Been making professional games for nearly 30 years. Biggest franchises on the planet. I can tell you, just do what brings you joy (and hopefully a paycheck) the success is mostly luck that you can perhaps nudge a little in one direction or another. Great games go unnoticed all the time while really bad games sell well all the time. Its a mystery.

@CodeRed_dev RIGHT! If I make it out of this hell hole, that'll never happen to me... I'm already a know it all XD

@CodeRed_dev I was going to ask "Is this about...?" and then I realized I know dozens of those people. And it's not relegated exclusively to games either.

@CodeRed_dev All devs are by default gurus. The ones who succeed just get the braging right. We should be ok with this as at one point it will be our turn.

@CodeRed_dev Devs with an inflated ego will always be a thing, I mean, PirateSoftware still thinks he holds any authority pertaining to coding advice and he hasn't even released his game yet, but I don't think we're getting another Jonathan Blow or Peter Molyneux situation again anytime soon.

@CodeRed_dev every industry works this way. people don’t understand how important luck is and attribute their success to their own genius. which, you know, that’s fine but timing is much more important

@CodeRed_dev I don't mind, as long as they frame it like "here's what I did". Not like... "Here's what YOU should do", just kinda framing their experience in case it's helpful to people. And then the Udemy courses start..

@CodeRed_dev it’s easy to attribute success to our own expertise. but it definitely can just be luck

@CodeRed_dev Especially when the best advice is "Dude, rip off Lucas Pope. No really! Just makes it more mainstream, like for instance 'Papers Please' but with zombies!" Actually if someone has a hit and is dispensing advice, shouldn't they just say 'Dude, rip me off!"

@CodeRed_dev Sounds like that cuffbust guy who's been MIA since the biggest epic fail release I've seen so far

@CodeRed_dev It's all about them viral tiktoks right? 😄

@CodeRed_dev 장자에 이런 이야기가 있어요 - 조나라 사람의 걸음 걸이가 아름다워 연나라 사람이 흉내내다 자신의 걸음 걸이도 잊어 먹고 기어서 온 이야기가 있습니다. 무분별한 카피가 이렇게 됩니다.

@CodeRed_dev And copying the Current Thing is ALWAYS a bad idea. Nobody ever won a race by staying in the middle of the pack.

@CodeRed_dev After studying success from many indie games my conclusion is a lot of it is luck. I knew devs that had beautiful games, hustled at every event, and still had to close down.

@CodeRed_dev It's 100% luck & we are all doomed. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk

@CodeRed_dev "Winning the lottery is easy, just pick the right numbers like I did".

@CodeRed_dev Never ask a scratch card winner how they made their millions

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