@Itz_Weastyy that would give Ronaldo a 21% team goal involvement.
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Emil Panelius
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@Itz_Weastyy Without applying any context, Ronaldo scored 2% more of his team's goals, which (again) were scored in easier conditions, but once you apply context, like i did in the previous comment, Ronaldo is really only down to 6 goals, maybe 7 if you want to count a goal in a 4-0 loss, and
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Cristiano🇵🇹 vs Messi🇦🇷
Stats in each round of UCL KO vs top 10 elo teams -
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Kareem@Kareem_676
This is the only round in ucl ko where Ronaldo is better than Messi, this is what creates the disparity in there stats and make people think he's way better,. But the difference in the quality of teams they faced is insane
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@Itz_Weastyy vs Dortmund in a 4-0 loss, a useless brace vs Bayern in 2014, a penalty he didn't even win vs Juventus, he's down to 6 goals, just like Messi. Ronaldo's resume is filled with these kinda goals, making it seem like he was vastly better, when in reality that's clearly a myth.
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@Itz_Weastyy played in easier conditions, especially given, he's teams scored 33 goals as opposed to Messi's 16. Once you take out the (like i already said) the own goal that was for some reason credited to Ronaldo in 2007 Milan, a penalty and an offside vs Bayern in 2012, a consolation goal
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@Ronaldo61532683 @AboFahad1030 @MagicalPep Huh? He only has 4 games across Euro/WC KO's where he didn't play 90+ minutes, 2 of them coming from 2022 because he simply wasn't needed vs Switzerland, and then during the 40 minutes vs Morocco, he did nothing of note either.
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@AboFahad1030 @MagicalPep Also" 21 matches" is bs
He literally has only played 4 full matches in wc kos😭😭😭
If u use context, (like full matches played, non opta assists, team conditions, clutch goal %)
Ronaldo has 3 goals and 4 assists in 10 games
And 3 goals and 3 assists in 10 matches
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The idea that Cristiano Ronaldo is more clutch than Lionel Messi in big games is one of the biggest lie football has ever told 😭😭
ESPN FC@ESPNFC
Messi and Ronaldo when it's win or go home time in major tournaments 😮
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@Ronaldo61532683 @AboFahad1030 @MagicalPep You haven't debunked anything, no amount of context justifies having impact in 3/21 games, with your only good performances coming against mediocre opposition.
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@AboFahad1030 @MagicalPep I debunked "21 games in euros+wc ko"
Debunked wales and Czech being a bad team
Debunked Messi's impact
Ronaldo contributed to 5/8 of his team's clutch goals
6/9 if u consider goals when losing
Of his team's g/a
On the other hand Messi got outscored by higuain in kos
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@Ronaldo61532683 @AboFahad1030 @MagicalPep qualify in 2014 against teams like Ghana and the fucking US🤣
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@Ronaldo61532683 @AboFahad1030 @MagicalPep came in a situation where Argentina was incapable of creating anything, a goal that put them ahead. Also, Messi had a goal vs Mexico ruled out as offside wrongfully in 2006 anyways, not that it really matters because Ronaldo has played 5 WC editions, he simply failed to
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@noLsZzz @maktub_61 He was also not the best in 08/09 too tbh
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Does it even matter? He only mattered in 3 of those and he was arguably not the best player in 14/15 either.
Footy Rush@FootyRush_
The rumors that Messi would only have 3 Champions Leagues according to UEFA are FAKE. ❌ The fact that he didn’t play any minutes in the final doesn’t matter. He contributed to Barça’s campaign by scoring a goal and providing an assist that season.
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@realRobMuerto @johnemmzy44 @PlayingRoy @Senyyo of doing the things Messi does on the pitch, simple as. What you're fundamentally missing, is that systems would only see it fit to cater to a specific player, IF they benefit from it, and you only really see real benefits, once you create a system around the best player.
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@realRobMuerto @johnemmzy44 @PlayingRoy @Senyyo focus their assets on Ronaldo specifically, to maximize and cater to his abilities, especially in the box, that is literally a must, you can't be the best player, and not have a team's tactics mostly flowing through you, with Ronaldo it's just more subtle, because he's incapable
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Okay clown, let’s breakdown the Messi “perfect” 10/10 rating , shall we?
- Lost possession: 39x
- Only 3 accurate crosses out of 12 attempts
- Won only 12 duels out of 21 attempts
- 9 successful dribbles out of 14 attempts
- Got 1 yellow card
- 0 Goals
- 1 Assist
Explain? 🤡
Rexzzy@AFC_Rexzzy
People still think G/A is the reason Messi gets good ratings every match.
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@realRobMuerto @johnemmzy44 @PlayingRoy @Senyyo Fucking retard, they never even came close to the output and consistency that Messi showcased year in year out. Why did Neymar never achieve the same numbers at PSG? Why would Barca play around Messi, instead of Neymar, if Neymar was comparably good, if not better?
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@Itz_Weastyy Then the semis go to Ronaldo mainly because of the easier conditions he played in, Messi (unsurprisingly) was involved in more of his team's goals. Not to mention, that a lot of Ronaldo's semi goals are either indecisive, penalties or off-side goals.
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@realRobMuerto @johnemmzy44 @PlayingRoy @Senyyo Your last point isn't even worth breaking down, it's hilariously wrong and you probably know it too, unless you're genuinely, and utterly retarded, which tends to be the case with Ronaldo fans.
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@realRobMuerto @johnemmzy44 @PlayingRoy @Senyyo unprecedented levels of talent in all kinds of attacking domains.
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@realRobMuerto @johnemmzy44 @PlayingRoy @Senyyo What matters is where you receive those touches, does Messi get more opportunities to pile up assists? Sure, but that's because he actively practices on-ball dominance, in advanced areas, because.. he's simply better at it?
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@realRobMuerto @johnemmzy44 @PlayingRoy @Senyyo It is quite telling, what I'm talking about?
The act of touching the ball more does not necessarily by nature and in absolute terms, have to lead to a bigger accumulation in stats, at least not when you're only looking at total touches with zero context for anything.
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