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Goat Cheese
Goat Cheese@ItalianChud·
@Tuckergg @tescrealwagmi @Aella_Girl Do you cross the street without looking both ways? Do you accept a drink from a stranger at a house party? Do you leave your small child unattended at a theme park for hours on end? Do you trust your wallet unattended in the food court at the mall?
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Dr. Tuckleberry Winn, PhD ✡🇺🇸
Using crosswalks because you trust people to drive properly or confidently eating anything you can buy in a grocery store are both incredibly high trust activities. When you break it out across all of the ways you trust strangers in society, you absolutely trend over 50%. It makes the button seem beyond obvious.
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Aella
Aella@Aella_Girl·
im confused by people saying the right answer is pressing red. the good outcomes are 51% of ppl press blue OR 100% of people press red. the second is obvs way less likely
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Goat Cheese@ItalianChud·
@tescrealwagmi @Tuckergg @Aella_Girl You wouldn't see the result of that experiment because you would just be dead. You are the ones collapsing society by suiciding yourselves en mass. Reality for the survivors would be grim, but they would at least be alive and have a chance.
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Matt
Matt@ThinkWiselyMatt·
@patrickhays2 Texting while driving guy talkin low risk
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Matt@ThinkWiselyMatt·
I love how one of the red pill counter arguements is just "No actually you wouldnt press blue you liar" It's like they lack complete awareness of other minds
jesse@froststar14

@ThinkWiselyMatt only on internet polls are most of these so called blue button pushers able to make the claim, if tomm this was all real most of you would quietly press the red button, so all this grand standing and guilt tripping is a sham and immoral to boot

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Matt@ThinkWiselyMatt·
@FelixDelong It's funny because red has lost in all 8 polls yet they act like they have the win
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Goat Cheese@ItalianChud·
@ThinkWiselyMatt Massive incentive to lie. Maybe you aren't, but many would be. Nobody is lying about picking red.
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Dr. Tuckleberry Winn, PhD ✡🇺🇸
@Aella_Girl It's because red lost. Now those who picked red are trying to justify and contort reality to justify why their decision wasn't the low-trust, selfish one.
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spqy
spqy@evemilksme·
@DerekPederson3 How is you dying producing a better outcome
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Goat Cheese
Goat Cheese@ItalianChud·
@odskkk182544 @SenseiAnother I never required saving in the first place and I'm not responsible for anyone who presses the suicide button.
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odskkk
odskkk@odskkk182544·
@SenseiAnother red pressers don't seem to have an mind at all, wanting to genocide 49% of humanity , be glad blue votes saved you alternative to living with red pressers
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Sensei of the gakis
Sensei of the gakis@SenseiAnother·
"No theory of mind" for the most basic logical sequence is exactly why I do not believe anyone with IQ above 85 can ever be a leftist/socialist/etc. As someone said before, the right has "theory of mind" for the left, but the left never has "theory of mind" for the right.
just matt@questionableway

red is an unbelievably phenomenally disgustingly selfish decision and i do not have theory of mind for anyone who would choose it

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Cocogoatcutie@Cocogoatcutie_·
@SenseiAnother I mean, yeah I get that, but I genuinely just don't understand the logic of picking the blue button, there is literally nothing to gain picking blue if 100% of people picking red would mean guaranteed survival for everyone? It's the only correct option.
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Goat Cheese@ItalianChud·
@jankulveit Blue is an unstable equilibrium. Iterate the game ten thousand times and the blue strategy will eventually be completely culled by the first loss per sample. Red never loses and in fact can't lose. The game will regress to red in the long term.
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Jan Kulveit
Jan Kulveit@jankulveit·
Funny little illustration of levels of understanding of game theory and rationality, or: why basic game theory is evil 1. Non-sociopaths going by intuition: blue sounds pro-social, blue 2. People who reason explicitly and use some naive game theory or naive rationality: red! 3. People who actually understand game theory: blue (if you want an explicit reason, because of trembling hand, Schelling points, theory of mind) A simple explanation of "why 3." is ...imagine you are forced to play the game tens of thousand of times, at random points of your life from birth to death. What strategy you want to play? "1." being in agreement with "3." often makes sense if you think about the origins of "1.". Unfortunately there are few pieces of knowledge which in expectation makes you more dumb and more evil if you don't progress beyond the basic level; some of the more prominent I know about are basics of game theory, especially prisoners dilemma; basic econ; Elephant in the brain
vittorio@IterIntellectus

why would anyone even press blue?!?

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Goat Cheese@ItalianChud·
@redtachyon They want you to be willing to needlessly gamble your life for nothing more than social conformity. They feel smug about living in a society of lemmings.
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Ariel
Ariel@redtachyon·
Why do people treat this as some kind of a dunk? If I vote red, and then blue wins, why should I be coping about anything? I don't give a shit. Buttons are pressed, everyone lives, cool. I'm not making a prescription of "everyone should press red", I'm just choosing for myself.
Danielle Fong 🔆@DanielleFong

get game theory mogged once again, game theory advocates. everybody lives, and now you're in copeaganda about how you're not mean and wrong

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Goat Cheese@ItalianChud·
@VacuityNomad @techbr0ther @IterIntellectus Red is betting on their survival actually. In the event that they survive, I want to also be alive to care for them. If they pick blue it's wildly improbable that my choice can save them, but if they picked red it's very possible my choice will orphan them.
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VacuityNomad
VacuityNomad@VacuityNomad·
If you vote blue you are betting on your kids survival if you vote red you are betting against it. The idea that your vote "wont matter" is bullshit, think about all the cells in your body that cooperate to keep you alive. If they all decide to abandon ship and save themselves they literally kill you. If you vote blue you did everything in your power to save your child, if your child voted red or blue you did the absolute best you could for either outcome whereas with voting red you only help your child in the context of voting red. Now if you know which side is going to win that's different but this assume you dont.
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vittorio
vittorio@IterIntellectus·
my only argument is that without blue button pressers we wouldn’t have communism or suicidal empathy or mass immigration or most of the problems afflicting humanity nowadays really
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Goat Cheese@ItalianChud·
@minordissent WWII was whites pressing the blue button and now we're going extinct.
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Max
Max@minordissent·
Blue voters are so full of shit on so many levels. 1. The question is not over whether you are selfless its whether you think most people are. Even the most holier than thou lib believes most people are selfish and thus would not press blue. 2. If everyone just presses red no one dies. blue adds unnecessary death. 3. They are moralizing the experiment to ask “what is the good person answer” rather than honestly reflecting on what theyd do if it really happened. I guarantee you that you put any person in that room and say “if you vote blue but most people dont, we will SHOOT YOU” that not one single person will take that risk, especially given #1.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy

Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?

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Goat Cheese@ItalianChud·
@StatisticUrban And go down with them. Who will care for the babies left alive after you are purged?
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Hunter📈🌈📊@StatisticUrban·
The original question specified "everyone in the world." There's a critical mass of young children/babies who would not, under any circumstances, be able to understand the question, and would pick randomly. Voting blue is the only way to save them.
just matt@questionableway

last thing i’ll say about the button is that it’s pretty strange how few red voters change their position upon learning there is a substantial contingent of blue voters

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Goat Cheese@ItalianChud·
@BlueRepublik Smaller sample size than the original poll, and limited to just Americans. Nobody is going to post a bar graph that will convince me to increase my chance of death by infinity% Not risking my life for a miniscule chance of saving someone who can save themselves at no cost.
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Goat Cheese
Goat Cheese@ItalianChud·
@dharh @TierZoo Willfully suicidally stupid. Danger to yourself and others.
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