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Breaking news! Watershed moment as Jersey agrees in principle to go ahead with legislation for assisted dying
#Compassion #ThankYouJersey
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NEW: David Neuberger tells the Guardian that the status quo is failing “the fundamental aims of the law – to respect people’s right of personal autonomy, and to protect the vulnerable”.
It's time for change.
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Soon we’ll have assisted dying available within the U.K. fantastic news! Onwards and upwards
Dignity in Dying@dignityindying
BREAKING NEWS The Isle of Man’s Assisted Dying Bill has passed its Third Reading in a landslide victory for compassion. Today we are one step closer to providing choice for dying people who urgently need it. #YesToDignity dignityindying.org.uk/landslide-vict…
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@Medic11358726 That’s a good response rate for a typical survey. Presumably the others don’t care enough to have replied.
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@_HPAD A survey based on 19% of surgeons.
The opinion of 81% of surgeons is unknown.
Hardly a resounding support of assisted dring
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Royal College of Surgeons drops opposition to assisted dying.
That’s big!
Politicians can no longer say that UK doctors are opposed.
rcseng.ac.uk/about-the-rcs/…
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@Medic11358726 @shiobiwan Oh dear. Shouting at the rain. It’s going to happen so let’s make the best of it for patients and doctors.
And even the surgeons have dropped their opposition.
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@shiobiwan @_HPAD Hypothetical polls mean little. What matters is what happens when assisted dying is legalised.
In Canada, Oregon and Australia 98-99% of doctors have not taken part.
Healthcare wants nothing to do with assisted dying.
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France to draw up an assisted dying law after citizens’ jury votes by 76% to have legislation.
When will UK politicians join this compassionate movement?
theguardian.com/society/2023/a…
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@Medic11358726 Have you got a reference for that figure?
And dont forget how many doctors who would participate are prevented by the religious institutions they work in
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@_HPAD When faced with reality, 98% of docs in assisted dying jurisdictions refuse to take part.
Why?
The reality of providing an assisted death is very different to a hypothetical poll.
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@Medic11358726 Not true again. The BMA survey showed many doctors prepared to participate.
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@_HPAD Slight problem when French organisations representing 800,000 heathcare professionals will not take part in assisted dying.
Very few docs take part in assisted deaths:
Canada- 2%
Oregon - 2%
Australia - 1%
Healthcare wants nothing to do with assisted dying.
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@Medic11358726 @dignityindying @MDMDmydecision Straw man. We know that terminally ill people who enquire about AD dont want to die, but they do want the choice when the time comes. Their prognosis is irrelevant, if they do take the medication it will be in the last few days of their lives.
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UK assisted dying campaign groups @dignityindying , @_HPAD , @MDMDmydecision spread the myth that prognosis is easy to guess (6m, 12m, whatever).
Wrong.
Think again
telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness…
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@Medic11358726 @marionh94109394 @historykev @dignityindying Dear medic – we don’t mind what you believe. Just don’t try to make us live lives limited by what you believe.
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@marionh94109394 @historykev @dignityindying Ideological cults have always attacked others for their beliefs. @dignityindying, @_HPAD and others are following the same discriminatory pattern.
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No, she isn't. She is a founding member of Physicians Together with Vulnerable Canadians. @dignityindying's relationship to facts is very questionable.
Sarah Wootton@sarah_wootton
Ramona Coelho is a spokesperson of the Christian Medical Society of Canada (which actively campaigns against MAID) and she has co-signed a communication from the Canadian Catholic Bioethics Institute against assisted dying.
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@ChristophLyon @Medic11358726 @marionh94109394 @historykev @dignityindying Firstly, the people who die, are not ‘actively killed’, they chose to take the medication and do so themselves
Then, nobody has to participate. You have to seek to do it. So there’s no imposition.
Please try to moderate your language while getting the facts right. Thank you.
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@kesleeman @marionh94109394 Dear Prof - what was really encouraging was the large number of palliative care practitioners there, who see AD as part of the spectrum of end of life care.
#ListeningToPatients
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@marionh94109394 It’s an odd way to describe any group of conference attendees - imagine if other conferences proposed shared characteristics for their attendees! Renal conference: such intelligent and detail-orientated people
Surgery: such dexterous and hierarchical people
Lol
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Others might well describe these people in different terms ….
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Very exciting to see over 400 people involved in medical aid in dying at the conference in Portland Oregon. Such kind and compassionate people
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@DVelinos @Medic11358726 @EndOfLifeIE @MDMDmydecision @dignityindying And they can’t accept that 200,000,000 people now have access to assisted dying. The rest of the world is just getting on with it.
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Assisted dying: the great silence.
Why are @_HPAD, @MDMDmydecision and @dignityindying promoting bad deaths often due to poor care?
But SILENT
on reality that over 300 UK people every day cannot access specialist palliative care.
Choice is meaningless without information
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@Medic11358726 @marionh94109394 @historykev @dignityindying Here’s the thing.
We don’t try to impose our beliefs on you.
You do try to impose your beliefs on us
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@Medic11358726 @EndOfLifeIE @DVelinos @MDMDmydecision @dignityindying Oh dear. 20 yrs + evidence from Oregon , many more of you include other jurisdictions. The truth is that no evidence would satisfy you
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@EndOfLifeIE @DVelinos @_HPAD @MDMDmydecision @dignityindying Assisted dying....
Evidence?
= so poor, no drug regulatory authority has ever approved AD drugs
Experience?
= using death as the only endpoint is a reminder of when the absence of vomiting was the only safety check for thalidomide.
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@Medic11358726 @EndOfLifeIE @MDMDmydecision @dignityindying No they work in organisations that forbid them to participate
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@_HPAD @EndOfLifeIE @MDMDmydecision @dignityindying Religion had nothing to do with
-low rankings for quality of end of life care
-poor access to specialist palliative care
-lack of growth in PC services
Only 2% of Canadian and Oregon doctors take part in assisted deaths, or are 98% Catholic?
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@Medic11358726 @EndOfLifeIE @MDMDmydecision @dignityindying Correction - many doctors aren’t allowed to participate as 70% of health institutions are owned by Catholic organisations.
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@EndOfLifeIE @_HPAD @MDMDmydecision @dignityindying Incorrect.
No growth in Belgian&Dutch services since 2012
Most Oregon and nearly all NZ hospices refuse to take part in assisted dying
AD countries rate poorly in quality of end of life care
Access to specialist PC is poor in Canada and Australia
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"The Canadian model of #assisteddying has fast become the international benchmark for assisted dying legislation. Therefore, we believe it should be used as an indicative guide for future legislation in England and Wales."One of the leading pro-#assistedsuicide organizations.
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@Medic11358726 @MDMDmydecision @dignityindying Of course many non assisted deaths are peaceful. A few involve suffering. Not sure what your point is.
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Assisted dying’s great silence:
Why are @_HPAD, @MDMDmydecision and @dignityindying
SILENT
Studies have shown that non-assisted deaths are as peaceful as assisted deaths.
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