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@DirectorOfDirt @repTILLYan @RaysForeverHome I think we’re just gonna go round in circles on this

@invwh @repTILLYan @RaysForeverHome The guarantee is that that if the Rays spend $10B on the surrounding development they will pay the city and county around $5B in property taxes over 30 years. That’s before the first penny in bed tax or sales tax. Economic development deals like this one happen in other biz too.

It would cost every citizen of Tampa roughly $400 total to find the Tampa part of the stadium. it's a 30 year lease. So less than $15/ year per person. People are out there acting like people are losing their livlihoods over this. #RaysUp @RaysForeverHome

@blankslate2017 “Swamp” -Floridians

Really dumb decision to host the final in NY/NJ. Weather will be hot; stadium is in a swamp. Sofi is an architectural marvel near the coast and 3 miles from LAX.

@JonasBlane303rd @3YearLetterman @godlywomanhood Everything that has an exit has an entrance, by definition

@3YearLetterman @godlywomanhood Assholes are exit only. If you need that explained to you then I don’t know what to say.

Anal sex is great if you like playing in the sewer, wearing diapers, and getting diseases from it.

@DirectorOfDirt @repTILLYan @RaysForeverHome The guarantee is they get to keep all the profit, no?

@invwh @repTILLYan @RaysForeverHome The team is putting in $9B… I don’t think you and I are so far apart. I would want guarantees on the $9B. The taxes are going to happen if they build.

@DirectorOfDirt @repTILLYan @RaysForeverHome That’s why I proposed what I did. The taxpayer gets no monetary benefit for any of that. That’s why the Rays should front the money to city/county and let them pay back as it’s collected. If it’s a slam dunk they should have no problems getting their money back

@invwh @repTILLYan @RaysForeverHome 2/2 The big difference in the Rays deal is that the development happens now… now 5-20 years later. The project pays for itself with the surrounding development taxes in 7 years easily. Add sales and bed taxes and its even faster.

@TJ_Pittinger So you’ve tweeted dozens of times since asked, and couldn’t provide an alternative quote? Is it bc it doesn’t exist and Bobby did in fact join the ACC for the reasons he said?

@invwh Ah, because he only gave one quote (that has become a viral meme to Finebaum) on the situation. You're right, he never spoke about it elsewhere. 👍

How could Bobby not predict the SEC’s rise due to Nick Saban & the subsequent explosion of media rights 35 years later? Really a failure on his part.

Come on with this headline...

@DirectorOfDirt @repTILLYan @RaysForeverHome That’s not what I mean…I don’t think they’d accept a deal where they spot the revenue they claim it will generate and get reimbursed. They know that money won’t come back to them even though that’s their entire pitch (no pun intended)

@invwh @repTILLYan @RaysForeverHome It’s not like you can avoid paying your property taxes. 3 years and you go to auction.

@DirectorOfDirt @repTILLYan @RaysForeverHome I think the Rays would instantly reject that deal bc they know these projects are not self supporting.

@invwh @repTILLYan @RaysForeverHome I think that’s a fair thing to ask… and how do we guarantee that surrounding development happens as well? I wonder if the Rays could underwrite the bonds and have the city/county pay the bonds with the marginal revenue from the Drew Park CRA money.

@TJ_Pittinger Were you able to find a quote from where he gave a different reason TJ?

@redhart171 @repTILLYan @RaysForeverHome 100%. And also if he believes that, why is the Omni priced 3-4x regular rate Tuesday 6/16 when the giants are in town (if you can get a room) vs a random Tuesday in November if the battery is a year-round destination?

@repTILLYan @invwh @RaysForeverHome If you believe that…lol. Look at Atlanta on a non game day.

@DirectorOfDirt @repTILLYan @RaysForeverHome So why don’t Rays front that money and city reimburses them as it’s collected?

@invwh @repTILLYan @RaysForeverHome They will… Surrounding development will generate $150M in property taxes annually. Add sales and hotel taxes and the building pays for itself several times over.

@conorsen @HedgeDirty Germany versus Mexico (or whoever) in the Swamp? I don’t even really like soccer and I would try to go to that o

@HedgeDirty I wish we could’ve had the group stage entirely in Power 4 college football stadiums.

The choice to disperse world cup teams to all manner of ordinary, no-reason-for-a-non-American-to-have-even-heard-of-it places is phenomenally interesting choice thats going to be an incredible natural experiment in national perception

@edwardjcol1 @EvanVasilion @TomahawkNation For a million a year? Yea dude they don’t give 2 shits what you say

@EvanVasilion @TomahawkNation Silly take. You think players want to deal with assholes blowing them up?

Column: Florida State keeps playing with fire when it comes to its fan base dlvr.it/TSzxF6

@doc_rudman @Publix Go to walmart, Joel. You aren’t entitled to publix

With so many prominent state politicians being from Central Florida, why is no one investigating @Publix? $20 a pound for roast beef? $9 “on sale” for lean ground beef? These are European prices! These prices have doubled while the prepackaged meats from other companies (Wahlburgers, Schweid) have only risen modestly. Is Publix gouging Floridians? Investigate them NOW @GovGoneWild @JenniferCanady_ @WiltonSimpson

@repTILLYan @redhart171 @RaysForeverHome It would be the rays who reject that deal, was my point. Bc they know there is no ROI. If they’re so certain of it they should offer it

@invwh @redhart171 @RaysForeverHome Maybe, but if the city stands to reap so much, I think it would be prudent to do what they need to do. Also, there are negotiations happening. I assume that topic is at least on the table.

@TJ_Pittinger Look forward to your rational reply

@invwh ah, you weren't trying to have a rational discussion? All good, my mistake. Have a nice weekend.

@repTILLYan @redhart171 @RaysForeverHome Watch which side rejects that proposal

@invwh @redhart171 @RaysForeverHome I honestly think something similar may be proposed. Or at least a payment plan allowing the city to pay less upfront. That is one of the main hurdles in the one vote the team needs to flip.

@TJ_Pittinger Are you 10?

@TJ_Pittinger I’m open to reading the other quotes though if you have them. All I’m seeing (and not just to finebaum) are the same message. But if the facts change I can change my mind