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@Gia_Bruni it’s because the nordic model doesn’t fix the actual problem which is capitalism. you can’t shut off an industry without taking the steps to relocate those now jobless workers into another job, or housing, or giving them food, water, medical care, etc. etc.

Literally shut the fuck up when a SWer is speaking. I worked under the Nordic model. WE are the only ones ACTUALLY treated as criminals. Speaking out of the fucking side of your neck when you have never felt the trauma of working under this system.

@kirschpalinka yea, i didn’t say that. trans men (men) being able to weaponize misogyny against trans women (women), either by using or claiming misogyny against trans women because of perceived “afabness”. *that is the privilege*

How is being viewed as a woman male privilege I'm crying bruh

@queersanta @LeoRaven49 eh thats reductive. the physical reality is things aren’t affordable, no one’s saying they don’t exist at all

@thehellgorl @LeoRaven49 the means exist, just aren't accessible ??? like just because I can't go to the white house doesn't mean the plane, car, door to enter it do not exist. affordability and physical reality (pure existence) aren't the same

@catboydemon @zagreus92 thats patriarchy rules. sorry, men get treated better. doesn’t matter if you’re cis or trans. trans people merely faced gender/sex based oppression. marginalized men will always have patriarchal power over marginalized women tho. i’ve said it 100 times.

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 You're applying c!sgender rules to trans people. You're erasing our transness.

Call me crazy but if you don't want trans men to interact with you just because they're men, that's the actual transphobia

@catboydemon @zagreus92 no, like i said, i’m bored of you. you’re boring me.

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 You've literally ran out of arguments

@catboydemon @zagreus92 in a way, soo uhh fucking obviously. yea women are more oppressed than men, thanks for learning the very basic rule of patriarchy😂😂😂

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 Oh so you don't think trans women are more oppressed than trans men just because are struggles are different?

@catboydemon @zagreus92 it must be really hard being sooo fucking stupid

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 You're the one who can't comprehend the experiences of trans people who aren't exactly like you

@catboydemon @zagreus92 nice summary of things i didn’t say, disingenuous prick. bye bye

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 So you think only one type of trans person must be The Most Oppressed and refuse to believe trans people different from you can suffer equally in unique ways. Sure ok, very nuanced and mature. Very helpful. That'll bring the community together.

@catboydemon @zagreus92 womp womp, baby doesn’t understand intersectionality. big shocker, that.

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 Imagine playing oppression Olympics and downplaying the experiences of other trans people when we're all dying and having our rights taken away

@catboydemon @zagreus92 lol, i’m not gonna because you’re gonna try and equate it to transmisogyny. go away like you said you were gonna

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 Answer the question

@catboydemon @zagreus92 i thought you were done? because honestly i’m so bored of you

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 Do you disagree that trans men experience transphobia and misogyny? Use your words

@catboydemon cry about it

Lmfao

@catboydemon @zagreus92 you’re not slick

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 I didn't use the word transmisogyny. I said we experience both transphobia and misogyny.

@catboydemon @zagreus92 imagine thinking TERFS don’t treat trans women worse. bye bye TME😂💀

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 You really think terfs gaf about what we have to say on women's issues? You really think it's a privilege to have our existence erased? You know nothing about our experiences, that much is clear now. I'm done wasting time on you. Egocentric, utterly devoid of empathy.

@catboydemon @zagreus92 no, transmisogyny effects specifically trans women. that’s another privilege trans men have over trans women.

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 Not sure why you're bringing being tme/tma into this. You don't think both trans men and women can experience and intersection of transphobia and misogyny, but in different ways? We must be complete opposites?

@catboydemon @zagreus92 bruh you do, sorry not sorry. its my fault tho i really shouldn’t expect men to know shit.

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 I joined because you made that dumbass statement that trans men benefit from the patriarchy that sees us as walking wombs

@catboydemon @zagreus92 no, trans men are TME. you’re denied manhood because of transphobia but still have patriarchal power over trans women. it’s not hard to understand but i’m actually talking to a rock so i get it.

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 So the difference is that trans men are largely seen and treated as women, because we're trans. We experience an intersection of misogyny and transphobia that c!s people don't. We can't exert male privilege we don't have.

@catboydemon @zagreus92 i didn’t say that, you did. if you didn’t want me to think you were saying that then be fucking clear next time like, fuck you, genuinely.

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 Don't be fucking dense, it's society that treats us as baby makers. You're disgusting, blaming me for my own oppression

@catboydemon @zagreus92 i literally didn’t deny any of that i acknowledged it by saying the marginalization is because of transphobia not because you’re men. you’re disingenuous as fuck if you really can’t realize men having patriarchal power in any way

@thehellgorl @zagreus92 You're denying how we're seen as women under patriarchy. You're diminishing our struggles as trans people. It's both transphobic misogynistic because you're erasing things like medical misogyny and abortion.