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@amanranaa32 @KnightlyVarka Which makes 4 cost varka with c6 prune and sig worse by around 20k than zibai at base

@KnightlyVarka c6 prune will be considered as 0 costs dw

I asked before whether you all considered a C6 4* as 0 cost and I agreed that it wouldn't be accurate I'm much more comfortable with considering C2 as 0 cost, which means 4 cost Varka premium is now at ~140-150k DPS, making it on par with Lunar teams at 4 cost

@KnightlyVarka Using the cost system to spread agendas lmao, 4 cost nefer (Nefer + sig, lauma columbina sucrose) Is about 20-30k higher than this Flins, ineffa + sig, bina sucrose is 20k higher Zibai + sig, linnea, bina flex is 20-30k higher

@jezerdump @Zoros_husband And this lil nga called me a sheet warrior lmao

@FilthyThom81969 @Zoros_husband nvm ur just dumb actually idk why im wasting time over someone who thinks a generalist who is barely a 10% improvement a dedicated support like that is just straight up mental illness

And Zajef got 150k, oh godka…

@Zoros_husband Maybe i can understand durin because black durin exist but how can you not say Nicole is a dedicated support when she's clearly intended to be played with Varka

@FilthyThom81969 He has 0 dedicated supports except maybe C6 Prune

@Zoros_husband I'm starting to wonder what is a dedicated support if not for a character that is intended to be played with a specific unit

@saikaifan Arle overload (r1 arle) did the trick for me

For the first time since stygian release I feel at peace and haven't even tried clearing fearless because varka is too much of a bum to clear gecko

@jezerdump @Zoros_husband Durin will be holding the new hex support set if nicole isn't on the team, Durin er requirements are low in Bennett's teams (if you don't skip Bennett e) is low because of venti, which will be replaced by prune 3- it doesn't change shi

@FilthyThom81969 @Zoros_husband 1) who tf needs er for varka lmao. if anything its for durin, who already has barely any er in benny teams + sometimes even skips benny e 2) durin already holds the subdps set in varkas old team 3) nicole is intended to be played with all hexerei dps (see ult projections)

@jezerdump @Zoros_husband No i can read, yk like reading kits and understanding how they interact with other kits? Shocking ik

@FilthyThom81969 @Zoros_husband uhuh because ur hoyo themselves and know whos intended with who

@jezerdump @Zoros_husband I'm starting to think you don't know what the meaning of the word intended is

@FilthyThom81969 @Zoros_husband which nicole doesnt fit because shes closer to a generalist hexerei support / bennett replacement than a "give varka + 40k dps" button like other dedicateds are 🥴🥴

@jezerdump @Zoros_husband And pretty much bringing his er requirements down to 0 Being able to hold the support set and allowing durin to run the sub dps set which other characters can't do If nicole isn't intended to be played with varka and Durin idk who is

@FilthyThom81969 @Zoros_husband her synergy being *checks notes* atk buffs and a shield. okay 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@jezerdump @Zoros_husband Team wide atk buff to justify using Durin in that slot which other atk buffers lacked Shield that allows varka to do the optimized combos which other atk buffers lacked being a hex unit which enables the hex sets + buffs without relying on other units Generating energy for durin-

@jezerdump @Zoros_husband And i just explained why it's the correct definition, characters who are intended to be played with other characters are considered their dedicated support, whether they can fit in other archetypes or not

@FilthyThom81969 @Zoros_husband again you said that definition yourself so you're literally fighting ur own demons

@jezerdump @Zoros_husband You're literally just proving my point, sustain is situational, shield doesn't mean shi if you need healing, and vice versa

@FilthyThom81969 @Zoros_husband of course youd pull up the one matchup where shielders are bad lmao.. what next, ineffa is bad for flins because she cant heal him against radiant moonfly? be serious

@jezerdump @Zoros_husband Support

@FilthyThom81969 @Zoros_husband well its definitely not the definition you gave which is "intended to be used in their best team" because there are multiple supports intended to be used in teams that arent dedicated lol. need i remind you you made that definition yourself

@jezerdump @Zoros_husband That's so stupid what if you need the healing from chevy like in the gecko, does that make her better? Sustain is literally just situational

@FilthyThom81969 @Zoros_husband shes barely equal to c6 chevy because enemies dont attack in sheets hope that helps

@jezerdump @Zoros_husband So what's the conclusion here, a character is someone's dedicated support only if they give 60k dps increase or what

@FilthyThom81969 @Zoros_husband yeah because she gives 60k dps increase to nefer

@1713gyu @Zoros_husband And yet she still doesn't need her, ol with Varesa is still probably around the same level as Varka even without iansan, my point is Varka needing all these different pieces to compete with mavuika who can build a team MUCH cheaper while having better performance is underwhelming

@FilthyThom81969 @Zoros_husband So in theory she can’t work without iansan in overload cuz she can’t fill up her burst. She needs her DEDICATED for her to be able to use her full kit

@jezerdump @Zoros_husband Who are you replacing nicole with in Klee's team? She's barely equal to chevy and worse than chevy if your klee is anything above kqm investment, You're not triggering ol if u replace Fischl and you're losing on 33% team dps if you replace Durin, She's not that good for klee

@FilthyThom81969 @Zoros_husband they all use her interrupt res in her shield + razor can assume max stack ss so idk what to tell u lmao. klee also prefers nicole now so go figure