@HPbasketball It takes so much energy and those teams all celebrated those victories like they won the title and then on average lasted about 5 games in the following round.
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Another not especially surprising trend but just one I noticed: Since 2019 in this parity era, the team to knock out the defending champs hasn't won the title a single time. Raptors did it in the Finals, since then, none of them have pulled it off.
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@JonesOnTheNBA Well yeah. I mean the ethereal team that acquires Fox and Chet this offseason is going to be suddenly be really solid!
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Indeed. I believe in Harper more as a talent. But if we’re being honest, he’s not good at running an offense/setting the table yet. It’s why I’m not sure the Spurs rush to trade Fox yet. But we’ll see. Twitter seems to think it’s a done deal lol
Kyle S@k_shinzon85
@JonesOnTheNBA It's getting ignored that Fox missed games with a bad ankle and never looked healthy or confident once he came back. Dumping on a guy for toughing it out while getting guarded OG is too far. Harper is better and that makes it weird, but acting like Fox is a bum is disingenuous
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@KevinOConnor This is a great juxtaposition of the last two champs. Wildly different ways to get there and both teams doing it the way that fits their market.
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The Knicks are an example of smart, courageous team building. Firing Thibs for Mike Brown was a ballsy decision by the Knicks. One of many that got them to this point. RJ & Quickley for OG, trading a 1st for Hart, signing Brunson to a big deal, the Randle for KAT deal, sending a ton of picks for Bridges, and moves around the edges like adding Shamet and Alvarado. Some teams are built through the draft. The Knicks were built through masterful trades and signings. Big time credit to Leon Rose and that New York front office.
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I’ll take Knicks in 6. Spurs seemed too emotional as if winning the West and beating OKC was the mountain top. Spurs remind me of 2012 OKC. (Remember the team OKC beat won the West the next two years)
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Thunder fans HATE this team
Brandon Rahbar@BrandonRahbar
Rest of the league needs to get their hands on that new rule book that only the Spurs got.
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@JonesOnTheNBA And Fox really steadied the Spurs in that Game 7 against OKC. Hit timely buckets. Spurs would have lost that game without him. They won’t bail on him now.
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A good follow up to that statement by Chuck would have been Ernie asking Chuck how he would have felt if a team he just signed a max with sat him in the middle of his first Finals because he didn’t have it going. Teams don’t just sit vet stars. They live and die with them
Scott@BellCowBack
@JonesOnTheNBA Charles Barkley disagrees
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95% of the people on this app think managing NBA teams is like fantasy basketball. No, the Spurs are not gonna tell Fox to eff off in the middle of the series. Especially after he sucked it up on a bad ankle to help them make the Finals. They seem to believe in the guy.
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Going to be honest. I will forever remember that before remembering the Alamo
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The Thunder just needed 1 of Jalen Williams or Ajay Mitchell healthy, man
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@ThunderNumbers Yes, but that’s because Presti actually does what he says. He said “I will meet with guys and listen to their goals.” When they pitched Giddey coming up off the bench in 6 man role, he didn’t want it and then they traded him.
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I wouldn't read too much about what Sam Presti says about players during his post-season press conference.
About 3 weeks after this headline, Josh Giddey was traded.
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Sam Presti’s full answer on the SGA free throw narrative is well worth your time reading. ⬇️
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@BrandonRahbar And that 2013 team didn’t fear San Antonio at all. They were on crash course with Miami and Beverly ruined it. (This is also why people can’t assume OKC OR San Antonio will get back)
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@BrandonRahbar The Ibaka loss was huge. Started 0-2 then he somehow limped back and got OKC back into the series for a minute.
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OKC has had a contending team incur injuries in 3 playoff runs.
2013: OKC #1 seed. Westbrook injured in 1st Round. Spurs go to the NBA Finals.
2014: OKC makes WCF vs Spurs. Ibaka gets injured. Spurs win NBA Finals.
2026: OKC #1 seed and makes WCF vs Spurs. JDub + Mitchell get injured. Spurs go to the NBA Finals.
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This is why I picked Knicks. Spurs remind me of 2012 OKC. Just not ready.
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"I could've been better at recovering from the high of the conference finals." —Wemby following Game 2 👀
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@JonesOnTheNBA And this is where Chet must improve for the Thunder to realize potential.
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You can’t just have a guy that is a 3 point threat that can defend. They need to be a threat to attack close outs. Knicks are wearing Wemby out defensively making him chase shooters and then making him rotate via timely passes or off the bounce attacks. All 5 guys can do it.
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5 out lineups with real unselfishness have been back breakers to Knicks opponents this year. And we were possibly a game 7 achilles tear from the Pacers winning it all with the same style of play
Rob Perez@WorldWideWob
What a possession here. Four different dribble penetrations into the paint, all feeling the presence of Wemby, the patience, and eventually: the look.
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I continue to think OKC has looked its best historically with Chet as the 5 out guy. Still puzzled the only time they went to it was on Shai’s game tying layup in game 1
Nate Jones@JonesOnTheNBA
5 out lineups with real unselfishness have been back breakers to Knicks opponents this year. And we were possibly a game 7 achilles tear from the Pacers winning it all with the same style of play
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Wemby wasn’t even touched on that last shot and still flopped to the floor. If that were SGA it’d dominate the conversation today 🤔
Ben Stiller@BenStiller
KNICKS IN 4
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You love it when it goes in from 30 feet though! Make miss league
Kevin O'Connor@KevinOConnor
I thought the Spurs forced the ball to Wemby too much down the stretch. Too much face up jumpers instead of running their offense. Also hated his hero ball corner 3.
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The Thunder just needed 1 of Jalen Williams or Ajay Mitchell healthy, man
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