@base_virtual@Rahll@cryptopunk7213 You're terminally online twitter boy because you share the opinions and mindset of terminally online Twitter boys (:
Having 20 tweets doesn't mean you haven't read 200 or 2000, so your logic is useless.
genuine question: why are the arts and gaming communities so fucking touchy about ai?
i get that 99% of examples are slop but we’re reaching a point where ai-generated media is indistinguishable for 90% of the world
that shouldn’t go un-acknowledged just because you want to hide behind a professional identity
ai isn’t going away, it’s getting (a lot) better, so why not try and figure out how to work with it to your advantage? isn’t that what a bunch of hollywood is realising now?
doomer: “NO THIS IS NOWHERE CLOSE TO PIXAR GRADE”
8 year old (target audience): “haha that’s awesome”
what am i missing?
@Rahll@cryptopunk7213 The argument is that OpenAI and otherLLM providers’ business model has been legally defended for years. This model relies on data trained from the open internet, and hence is not fundamentally theft. Being able to reproduce specific copyrighted content is a different problem.
@Rahll@cryptopunk7213 I would agree that pirated content and being able to reproduce copyright is bad and shouldn’t be allowed.
But this is not germane to the ability of regular people to produce art for their own purposes which does neither of those things.
@Rahll@cryptopunk7213 No, you’re lying. You understand that the discussion was about models being built on theft. I responded that so far the legal opinion is that LLMs are fair use.
You then attempted to conflate this with Anthropic’s settlement on pirated content and Disney’s lawsuit on copyright.
@Rahll@cryptopunk7213 I didn’t say there was a precedent. I said legal blueprint - a way of thinking about the intersection of fair use and AI that has been leveraged repeatedly.
Again, the settlement was focused on pirated content, not content scraped from the open internet.
You have no evidence.
@base_virtual@cryptopunk7213 No it was not, lol. It was the judge's opinion and sets no precedent and has no bearing on any other cases. Do you understand what a settlement is? Of course not.
@Rahll@cryptopunk7213 The settlement was because Anthropic was trained on pirated content, but content acquired legally (such as through open internet) was deemed transformative. Legal blueprint is pretty clear, and there is zero evidence in your favor thus far.
@base_virtual@cryptopunk7213 Lol, again most of the lawsuits are still active. Also, the Anthropic case literally broke the record for biggest copyright infringement settlement at $1.5 billion. The judge's opinion on fair use means literally nothing and no precedent was set 🤡
@Rahll@cryptopunk7213 Wrong. There have been multiple fair use wins because it was deemed transformative. Bartz v Anthropic, Kadrey v Meta are examples.
@base_virtual@cryptopunk7213 Lol, almost all the lawsuits are still active you fucking idiot, and more are added every day. AI can't even be copyrighted.
@ExcelionRyn@Rahll@cryptopunk7213 You said I was a terminally online twitter boy, but you are objectively on Twitter far more than me lol. No one in the real world gives a shit about AI, and if you disagree talk to anyone college aged or younger, anyone who works service or trade jobs, grandparents, etc.
@base_virtual@cryptopunk7213 Lol, what scenes did I ask for here. Also, almost all those cases are still active and several of them were settled or lost, so keep speaking out of your ass.
@Rahll@delusionalpats@cryptopunk7213 I bet you’re not capable of processing film in a darkroom but you probably take pictures on a cell phone. Anti technologists always lose, every time.
@Rahll@cryptopunk7213 I’m sorry, how is this relevant? Training models on the open internet has already been litigated countless times over the past few years. Recreating very specific scenes is obviously different and you know that.
@Slabotage@Rahll@cryptopunk7213 Sure it does. Art is subjective, and there is nothing in the definition of artistic expression that excludes prompting.
@base_virtual@Rahll@cryptopunk7213 AI CANNOT create art, you know that right? Artistic expression is limited to humans and an AI prompt is not at all the same thing. 🤦🏻♂️🤡💩