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@pearsonm103 @mtntallpaul You gain a rapid deployment position for nukes, based in locations across Europe which are not US territory. Your largest air base and your largest military hospital outside of US soil is in Europe.

@debunkdafunk @mtntallpaul Lols… I actually meant NATO. And you didn’t actually argue against my delivered position. Do you have a valid point to make besides pointing out I said UN when intending to say NATO? I bet not. 😂🤷‍♂️

Hard to see how membership in NATO benefits the US.

@pearsonm103 @mtntallpaul With the rest of NATO, you more than double the size of the military available, including a lot of specialist units that you don't have many of (e.g. cold weather troops and armour). You rely on the UK for most of your radio / phone intelligence and to track Russian subs.

@pearsonm103 @mtntallpaul More directly, you gain global projection using our bases and our air space. You shrink to a regional power without them. You can't even fly to the middle east without going via Germany or the UK. Your missile defence relies on having radars and interceptors on our territory.

@Lance91111 @johnkonrad Hypocrite much?

@debunkdafunk @johnkonrad This response is exactly what Americans are talking about.

“It will hurt America’s economy too” Dear Europe: Most Americans love you. Most Americans don’t care how you govern yourselves. Most Americans (especially the center and left) don’t even care that our taxes pay for your security. I warned a year or two ago that Americans will shrug off insults for years and just roll our eyes…. until we don’t. That’s how the American psyche works. We don’t care until we do. Then we all get pissed off at once and do something irrational. I don’t know why. It just is. The entire left and big portions of the right aren’t pleased that we hit Iran. Many would agree with the points you’re making. But at the end of the day, we are Americans. We will give you a long leash, but when it runs out, we jerk the chain back hard. NOBODY wants the Strait of Hormuz to remain shut. Nobody, or at least very few, want Europeans to suffer a massive energy crisis. But frankly, we are fed up with the rhetoric. And if you don’t think we’ll cut off our nose to spite our face, you don’t know Americans at all. You can push and jeer and mock and scorn us for years, even decades. But when Americans snap, it will happen quickly and without warning. And we are very close to the breaking point.

@Lance91111 @johnkonrad Yep, sure enough. You've spent plenty of time trashing France too. Does your hypocracy not register?

@johnkonrad This is a well written post. I 100% agree. Europeans trash Americans non stop. Americans are starting to trash Euros back. We are obviously stronger as allies but we can only stomach the insults for so long.

@Lance91111 @johnkonrad Wow. You do spend a shit load of time trashing the UK. I haven't even looked at other countries.... It's page after page. And you have the audacity to say it's Europe trashing the US? What do you call what you've been doing?

@Lance91111 @johnkonrad Hypocrite much? I got bored after three pages of it. One leader, post after post from you "trashing" him. Shall I go on....?

@pearsonm103 @mtntallpaul Position not pouting! 🤦

@pearsonm103 @mtntallpaul Your delivered pouting needs to be coming from a position of understanding the bodies you refer to. So your position was dismissed by me, because you clearly didn't.

@pearsonm103 @mtntallpaul Why do you have those bases? Is it because we asked you for them? Or because you requested them? Why is Trump so angry at it having unhindered access to those bases and the airspace of Europe? Answering these in good faith, answers your own argument.

@StuartLond23794 @sharrond62 Then you don't understand the term rage bait. Look at the article linked above. Look at the reports from the right wing press. None quotes the BBC article. They push a narrative, just as you do. They falsely claim the BBC was "calling for dogs to be banned" & similar. A lie.

I have in fact read both the BBC article and the Spiked commentary on it. I am also a longtime consumer of BBC news and current affairs output. Regarding the BBC article itself, there is little if anything in it with which I would disagree. What did trouble me was the timing of it and its underlying message. The article emerged at a time when some vocal adherents of Islam have sought increasingly stringent restrictions on the contexts in which dogs may be permitted to be present, and despite the fact that the Quran itself contains absolutely no admonition that dogs are unclean. This has understandably become a controversial issue. The BBC seems to think it is part of its role not simply to report on such controversies, but to actually seek to defuse them. In this case, the underlying message of the article appears to be that it's not unreasonable to object to the presence of dogs, lots of people do, so by implication why criticise those adherents of Islam who feel a similar antipathy? You may disagree with that interpretation, which you are perfectly entitled to do, but to many people including me, it doesn't seem that far fetched, partly because we have noted similar behaviour by the BBC before. In this case, the lie by omission in the article seems to be the omission of the very context I have described above. More generally, my remarks refer to the increasingly obvious tendency of the BBC to omit vital context, essential to forming a balanced judgement on contentious matters, even when reporting the most serious of national and international events. I am sorry that you chose to make your point in a somewhat chiding and judgemental manner. Perhaps it is not me who engaged in rage baiting.

Wow. So is the bbc saying we have too many dogs in the countryside? What has the bbc become? Every day they just get worse.

@StuartLond23794 @sharrond62 Lieing by omission? Wow. So. You can create any story you like, and say that this was actually what the BBC meant? I totally disagree. There was no connection. It was about allergies, phobias and the increasing number of dog friendly venues. You don't get to rewrite the story.

@StuartLond23794 @sharrond62 You seem to be making a link that isn't there. Timing, based upon others being critical of Islam? That's quite a leap to make. Outside of far right circles, no one in their right mind would make that leap. You've created a narrative based upon your prejudice.

@CWayneIII @Lance91111 @johnkonrad How let's talk about how it feels to be threatened by the US. Your leaders have directly threatened to take sovereign territory of other NATO members. You've waged an economic war on the world, using threats of trade embargoes when Trump doesn't get his way. Is that respectful?

@debunkdafunk @Lance91111 @johnkonrad Maybe calling our elected president who got the popular vote a toddler. That insults all Americans who voted for him. You carried bizarre looking blowup models of Trump when he visited Europe. We helped with our blood for a century to help Europe and you shit on us

@CWayneIII @Lance91111 @johnkonrad I'm amazed you are trying to justify breaking up NATO over a blow up version of Trump. He's a devisive political character. Do you expect everyone to like him? Is his skin that thin?

@CWayneIII @Lance91111 @johnkonrad He acts like a toddler. He's impulsive and lashes out and makes a great noise when he doesn't get his way. Just today, from the US, I've had Starmer called a "paedophile apologist" and "spineless". I was told the UK is an "Islamic adversery that needs to be taken out"

@CWayneIII @Lance91111 @johnkonrad More quotes from the White House: “France has been great… the UK has been much different” “Your government is becoming censorious and illiberal.” "it's blatant foreign interference” "I think the European Union is a foe" "Germany is totally controlled by Russia"

@CWayneIII @Lance91111 @johnkonrad So the words of a few represent the many? How about the words of your leaders? "The UK will be the first truly Islamist country that will get a nuclear weapon” “some random country that has not fought a war in 30 or 40 years” “it's no Winston Churchill that we’re dealing with”

@cman4prez @letmelogin101 @LorneMalvoPHP @JoeySalads Only after you attacked them. And it was a drone launched by Hezbollah in Lebanon, not from Iran.

@letmelogin101 @LorneMalvoPHP @JoeySalads Iran attacked sovereign British territory.

The UK and France are about to lose their Free Healthcare.

@cman4prez @LorneMalvoPHP @JoeySalads Why because you started a war of choice, at the request of Israel, went in without a plan and without thinking about the consequences and we didn't run in to sort your shit out? 808 days you waited in WW2. We've got most of that time still remaining before we need to act.

@LorneMalvoPHP @JoeySalads Totally agree. Europe is just beyond pathetic at this point especially the UK