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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@lilunseasoned @fongwitch @lilunseasoned Maybe you don’t know what obejctive means so I’ll give you a little help. Objective means that it is true regardless of personal belief. All you’ve stated were personal beliefs. You need a mind and stance independent standard for objectivity
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ecarl@lilunseasoned·
@koopattoopa @fongwitch Is murdering humans objectively immoral? Why? taking the life of something that doesn’t want to die is objectively immoral and unethical. We don’t have to eat meat to survive and be healthy, thus it is immoral to contribute to suffering when it is easy not to.
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paloma@fongwitch·
literally every argument for eating meat is either a straight up lie or the sloppiest false equivalencies ever. like idec if ppl i know do eat it but the weird impulse to defend it morally is incredibly annoying
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@lilunseasoned @fongwitch @lilunseasoned I don’t want to be rude but thats still not objective. Why is taking the life of something that doesn’t want to die obj immoral ur just asserting. Thats subjective. Ur idea of what’s necessary is also subjective Why is suffering objectively wrong? It’s all subj
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cez@cezthesocialist·
@koopattoopa @JDabknee It’s not eating meat itself, it’s what is required for you to be able to do that.
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@cezthesocialist @JDabknee Why is killing animals to eat them objectively wrong. Im asking for objectivity here. I don’t want to hear and I don’t care about your subjective opinion. Subjective opinions aren’t facts so please make sure it’s objective. Objective means true regardless of personal belief
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@coffinvoxal And if you want to know why that is your position it’s because you reject objective morality therefore morality in ur view becomes just preferences and as long as someone holds that preference they are right to themselves. So ur worldview justifies Hitler Epstein. Ew
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Mr. CantarellaⓋ📺🦌Whatever it Takes #1 glazer@coffinvoxal·
Animal eaters are always onto some "what about native tribes that only live by hunting seals or something?" Well clearly we don't mean them. We mean you and your easily available supermarkets
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@coffinvoxal I dont think it’s animal abuse and u have failed to prove how eating meat is objectively wrong so appeal to emotions doesnt work. See how easy it is to dismantle subjectivists. But I get you. You don’t believe rape or pedophilia are objectively immoral either just preferences ew
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@coffinvoxal @Arsgratiavitae @FlexBeef That comment wasnt towards you but even ur argument fails. Unless you can provide an objective moral wromg with eating meat then u cant actually call meat eating wromg it’s just not ur preference and someone who holds that preference is just as right as you are.
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@jojocraftsx @nednuad @Mewsitive @jojocraftsx Okay prove it. How is CSAM/pedophilia objectively wrong. Objective means true regardless of stance so you must give me an objective moral standard outside of the human mind so if you give me an opinion on why you think it’s wrong it’s subjective and ur a pedo
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@labxnair So to refute you real quick. I think eating meat is okay bevause I just feel that way. You may either debunk my worldview by providing an obejctive standard to show im wromg because ur subj opinion means nothing to me jus like Epsteins subj opinions of pedo mean nothing to me
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𝑫𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒌🌹@labxnair·
@koopattoopa also this isn't about 'objectivity', just consistency. I don't there are many arguments for why humans deserve to not be eaten that don't also apply to other animals
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@labxnair This is about objectivity bcause if it’s not objective then it’s subjective mesningless nonsense wnd everything can be justified. If it’s subjective no one ought be consistent or anything you believe. They can even say the support cannibalism and you can’t call them obj wromg.
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@labxnair So you proved my point. Ur inconsistent and self refute which i respect. Deep down you know killing babies is wrong but it’s convenient. Ur “justification” for it was “because I believe it’s justified” Anyone can use the same thing for eating meat. W fail
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𝑫𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒌🌹@labxnair·
@koopattoopa no I don't view abortion the same way, I think people are probably more lax about it than I am actually. But I only think it's justified because I don't believe being a life means someone's bodily autonomy can be violated, and that's what a foetus does to an unwanting woman
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@fongwitch @lilunseasoned Sorry I have to @ you cus the OP blocked me for some reason lol. Anyways. It’s a question that needs to be asked bevause you were unable to answer it. Ur reply of “it’s wrong bevause I think xyz is wrong is circular and subjective. Thats not objective.
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@quran_john @aoinxsco Okay. I’ll take that as a double concession. I replied you immediately and gave you enough time to reply with either proving ur universal claim or conceding. Hey buddy next time dont speak on philosophical topics you know nothing about.
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JohnQuran@quran_john·
@koopattoopa @aoinxsco contradict themselves. They believe it's fine because it's natural, but they will also say that modern medicine is obviously good, despite it not being natural. If you want my answer, I believe morality comes from moral agency, and pigs have intelligence close to 5 yr olds.
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@Arsgratiavitae @FlexBeef @coffinvoxal Who defined what is necessary? Unless you can provide an objectively correct and true definition that is universally true then anyone can define what makes something necessary to them snd according to you that would make them morally good.
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@quran_john @aoinxsco Sorry correction. I made you concede on ur claim that “veganism being objectively correct was a fact” my mistake there
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@quran_john @aoinxsco I don’t care about ur subjective morality. I already made you concede on ur claim that obejctive morality was a fact. Now im waiting for you to prove the second universal knowledge claim you made.
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Jai opetaia@koopattoopa·
@quran_john @aoinxsco Nope. You replied “makes you wonder what other facts we just can't stomach” to a post of someone saying veganism is objectively correct. So im glad you concede there. 2. “Neither you nor I can prove veganism wrong or right either way” Can you prove this claim or concede again
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JohnQuran@quran_john·
@koopattoopa @aoinxsco I mean, that's one of the greatest unsolved questions in philosophy, the concept of objective morality. Neither you nor I can prove veganism wrong or right either way, so we're stuck in a standstill. The only point I was making is that every meat-eaters will constantly 🧵
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red_Emi@red_Emi04·
@koopattoopa @The_Rebel_Lemon @pleoc2000 @_GirlSay ok maybe im getting too personal here anyways thanks for keeping things respectful and stuff have a good day sir i hope god accepts me as his son after all all i want is to be a good hearted person a kind human that helps others farewell god bless you
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red_Emi@red_Emi04·
@koopattoopa @The_Rebel_Lemon @pleoc2000 @_GirlSay should i just stop loving my boy then ive loved him for so long it would be sad to just let go of someone i rlly love for that reason i dont know i mean, i could force myself to be "straight" but really how? and what what cost
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@lilunseasoned @fongwitch @cezthesocialist @JDabknee @coffinvoxal @Arsgratiavitae @FlexBeef @jojocraftsx