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Dawn Elfenbein (she/her)
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Dawn Elfenbein (she/her)
@DawnEmick
Endocrine surgeon at the University of Wisconsin. Surgical education researcher. Medical ethics dabbler. Qualitative research amateur.
Madison, WI شامل ہوئے Aralık 2011
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Dawn Elfenbein (she/her) ری ٹویٹ کیا
In this #ATACentennial Fireside Chat, Drs. @DawnEmick & Davies discuss the history & future of #GravesDisease. They also discuss the fascinating discovery of the pathophysiology of GD & treatments.
@GDATF @o_kawkgi @DaceySeib @camilo_gzzv @doctorjuanpa
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@jbcarmody I apologize - that was me over interpreting your context, which is exactly what I’m trying to get you not to do, so I appreciate you calling me out on it!
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@DawnEmick I don’t think I’ve ever said that the AAMC is an evil genius. I think they have financial conflict of interest. That doesn’t mean they’re bad people. It means that they have a secondary incentive that may cause them to ignore their primary mission.
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In case you wondered where those ERAS fees go
Atul Grover, MD, PhD@AtulGroverMD
Kicking off #aamc2022 w @BrittNicx
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@jbcarmody True point. We all have competing interests, and I applaud you trying to expose those. I think listening and engaging without jumping to conclusions based on one’s own perspective is an important exercise
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@DawnEmick You can be a good person and still be led by financial incentives that ultimately don’t serve the organization’s overall mission. And as an outsider, that’s exactly what I see at the AAMC.
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@jbcarmody I actually know nothing of ERAS other than trying to figure out how to advise students each year, so I have no answer here about the fees. It does seem like a lot, though, I agree with you!
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@DawnEmick Why, for instance, do YOU think they increase ERAS fees “at the rate of inflation” every year? Or use a tiered fee structure that clearly doesn’t deter overapplication, or report statistics that convince most students that they’re under-applying?
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@jbcarmody I agree ERAS needs many fixes. I disagree with you taking things to the extreme conclusion that all medical schools squander tuition $$ and the AAMC is some evil genius behind it all. I see lots of thoughtful people here working hard to solve complex problems, and I feel hopeful.
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@jbcarmody Totally true, and maybe it couldn’t. I also know that if a school wants a surgeon to teach students how to be a surgeon but then pays them a pediatricians salary for those hours, they’re not going to have many skilled future surgeons. Changing one thing affects hundreds more
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@jbcarmody Partly, yea, but most CME funds are actually supported by patient care revenue, and, oh yeah, medical schools are also supported by patient care revenue from their hospital partners. So again, I don’t disagree, but funds flow is not one-way as you suggest!
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@DawnEmick The average attendee is a dean, medical educator, etc. - and their registration and travel costs are likely covered by their school.
Which means their costs are covered by their students.
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@jbcarmody I wouldn’t dismiss the big tech money for this meeting - they’re not pharma but the vender hall is very full of Ed tech companies that certainly contribute as much as pharma or device companies to others. Anyway, you and I don’t disagree, it’s just always more complex, you know?
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@DawnEmick On to the extravagance of the meeting… and again, I’ve never been. But I’ve definitely never seen multiple five-figure speakers, bands, food/EtOH, etc. so prominently at any scientific meeting I’ve attended - even with the generous pharma support those meetings often receive.
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@jbcarmody I was actually at that session yesterday, although it was not totally clear, my interpretation is that the data they gathered DOES support caps, so that was promising. I have appreciated your advocacy over the years, thanks for doing the work of trying to make them transparent!
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@DawnEmick (I’m not at the meeting - but I heard they presented analyses arguing against application caps. I hope others pointed out the flawed logic in extrapolating observational data collected in the current system to predict applicant behavior in a different system.)
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@timelfen - Your Preschooler Explains Tonight’s Bedtime Menu - McSweeney’s Internet Tendency mcsweeneys.net/articles/your-…
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Old man @ me while texting inside a building:
Him: “you might not be old enough to remember a girl once got killed walking into a bus while texting!”
Me: “ good thing there’s no bus in this building!” but thinking, smart phones are about 12 years old. I look younger than 12?
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@ctmarcinak @uwsmph @UWMadison Aren’t they amazing! And so fortunate to have @WiscSurgery residents and faculty to teach them so well! @UWHealth is a really incredible place for teaching and learning
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So grateful that this kind of leadership is what allowed a robust discussion about a virtual option for #ASC2022 to happen, and proud of my trainees virtually presenting this afternoon! Check them out in the Education and Endocrine II quick shot rooms. @WiscSurgery
Andrew M. Ibrahim MD, MSc@AndrewMIbrahim
Pause. Remember. Refocus. After a rocky 2+ years, some inspiring momentum from @AcademicSurgery President @AmirGhaferi with a path forward: 1️⃣ Create a challenge network 2️⃣ Engage in influential listening 3️⃣ Build a culture of learning #ASC2022
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Dawn Elfenbein (she/her) ری ٹویٹ کیا
It has been an honor to serve as the @UnivSurg President this past yr. I am hopeful that my presidential address & panel session w/ @emb7658 @TsengJennifer @Carmensolcar @CarlosPellegri inspires us all to do better w/ our URM students, trainees & faculty. More to come! #ASC2022
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Looks so fun, I am so, so bummed to be missing out #ASC2022 😞
C’mon FDA and approve an effective vaccine for kids under 5! Surgeon mommas everywhere thank you
Mio 幸緒 Kitano, MD, MPH, FACS, FSSO (she/her/hers)@mkitano7
This is happening now at #ASC2022 Please join us on the dance floor💃 🕺 @Dorry_Segev being an amazing DJ. As usual. @AcademicSurgery @UTHealthSASurg
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Was wondering what the results of the election at #ASC2022 were. Could not have gone wrong with that fabulous slate of candidates. The future is bright 😎
Hari Nathan, MD, PhD@WhatsUrHari
Congratulations to my friends @FabianJohnston @BrenessaL and @lmfunk2 on their elections today, joining @lubitz_carrie and @DrCNClarke. @AcademicSurgery is in great hands with these exceptional leaders, and I’m excited to see how they continue to push our society forward.
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Dawn Elfenbein (she/her) ری ٹویٹ کیا
Attention AAS Active/International/Military members registered for #ASC2022:
Emails with personalized voting links are sending now. Please vote for Officers by 4:30pm Eastern. If you don't receive an email within 30-45 minutes from now, please go to registration for support!
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Dawn Elfenbein (she/her) ری ٹویٹ کیا
“The absence of conflict is not harmony, it’s apathy”
@AmirGhaferi emphasizing the need for dissent and allowing space for people to push back
#ASC2022
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