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@LeeuwVVlaandere @Partisan_12 It is indeed a different time now where years of Israel propaganda has resulted in naziism. Thankfully it’s only some of you that think naziism is ‘fighting back’

@Partisan_12 Yep the Jews today fight back. This is no longer 1939.

A zio couple were filmed showing middle finger to a girl who was protesting against GEN0CIDE. The zio man then pushed her to the ground..

@LeeuwVVlaandere @perryfcross @Partisan_12 This is a not so subtle excuse to kill children by the way. Is that the stance you were intending to take?

@perryfcross @Partisan_12 We bombed children during WW2 ? Are you now having feelings for the Germans during WW ?

@LeeuwVVlaandere @perryfcross @Partisan_12 It’s quite normal to ‘have feelings’ over any child killed in war yeah

@J4m13___ @thisgirlisonf12 @AyoCaesar Also thankfully the police are busy arresting peaceful protesters so hopefully theft will be tackled soon eh?

@FullFatBlog @thisgirlisonf12 @AyoCaesar It's not a vague claim. It's fact. Tube journeys and walking along the streets in London. 20 years ago no issue. Now, phone thefts & shop lifting is rife. Utterly scandalous that the UK's capital city has been turned into the current crap hole.

Who am I to say whether it's true or not, but it's remarkable how many rightwing influencers have reported getting mugged in London in the last few days alone. I've lived here my entire life – have had guys on e-bikes try to nick my phone twice in that whole time.

@J4m13___ @thisgirlisonf12 @AyoCaesar That’s anecdotal, does not prove there was ‘no issue’ 20 years ago. I do think there has been an increase in certain crimes but looking for stats

@peg_roger @Tuttlebees @anon_opin Right ok but you did start by complaining about your son’s taxes. Anyway so to be clear you’re hoping stopping the boats would prevent the need for the camps and/or hotels etc. How would you stop the boats?

@FullFatBlog @Tuttlebees @anon_opin The only relevance is stopping the boats and getting rid of all illegal migrants. Thats it.

All these "London is finished" tweets are massively insulting to the residents and blatantly not written by anyone who has actually lived here for any length of time.

@peg_roger @Tuttlebees @anon_opin Also what do you mean ‘you mentioned cost, I didn’t’ ?? lol this convo started with you complaining about the cost of migrants on the tax payer…I think cost is fairly relevant to the discussion

You mentioned cost I didn’t. But I have been in the construction game for 45 years so know a thing or 2 about it. Let’s break down the migrant costs shall we a - Boats & Migrants -Enter Channel - 11 border force boats with crews and running costs - massive every day - Coast guard boats and crews - embarkation centres and hundreds of border force personnel to deal with these migrants -transportation to 4* hotels - costs per day a fortune - welfare of migrants - fortune - lawyers acting on gov funded no win no fee - massive -assessment personnel - massive Every day all day The costs quoted are not accurate or honest. Costs are being hidden in different sectors. If you could stop this before it got out of hand the savings would be massive. Politicians are useless

@J4m13___ @thisgirlisonf12 @AyoCaesar This is a very vague claim. I’ve lived in London 18 years. Had my phone pinched once about 12-13 years ago? I don’t find it ‘unrecognisable’ by any stretch

@FullFatBlog @thisgirlisonf12 @AyoCaesar London IS unrecognisable to 20 years ago. I used to commute in & out of London as an IT Engineer. When needed, I could carry a PC on my shoulder down to clients in London. Never had any problems. People now get mugged after purchasing new tech as they walk out of the shops.

@peg_roger @Tuttlebees @anon_opin Without specific costs this falls a bit flat. Saying things like ‘massive’ and ‘fortune’ isn’t that specific. There would also be fairly massive costs for camps. First of all building, then transportation to ‘remote area’, staff, food, utility bills. We need numbers

@peg_roger @Tuttlebees @anon_opin You haven’t actually priced it out. Your issue in the beginning was them staying in hotels. Yes reducing the number of claims would help. But then you wanna spend money building and running camps ‘in remote areas’. I’m asking how this is cheaper than hotels

What are you on about. I said this is what I would do. There are no camps correct - give yourself a star for observation. The cost? The cost would be whatever these migrants have cost taxpayers to date which is £Billions less the cost of these camps. After the boats have stopped one camp kept operational to send illegals to. The others used to send young offenders to learn respect and discipline. They get out when that has been achieved. The cost = massive savings and a better safer UK

@peg_roger @Tuttlebees @anon_opin Your plan of building a camp that doesn’t currently exist would have a cost attached. Now you’re saying the camp would be obsolete anyways?

@FullFatBlog @Tuttlebees @anon_opin No because my plan would stop the boats. Pick the right folk to live in UK. Get rid of the rest.

@peg_roger @Tuttlebees @anon_opin Probably more expensive than putting them in hotels that already exist no?

@FullFatBlog @Tuttlebees @anon_opin Where are the camps? I told you politicians. I would build them in remote places. 400,000 POWs were housed during WW2 in the UK We can sort out 30,000 easily.

@peg_roger @Tuttlebees @anon_opin Well I’m not sure the current state of water and rail tickets is particularly amazing. Yes good management is important and it’s not inherently better private either. Where are these ‘secure asylum assessment camps’ and why aren’t they being used already?

Any successful enterprise has to be managed properly. This government, if it had the resources, would still fail, They are mostly academics, ex public sector or union officials. Totally out of their depth other than big talkers and liars. People are only as good as the politicians using our money. As for the illegals - 2 stages - Tagged if land in UK -No contact with citizens of UK until risk assessment period has been reached and concluded. - Sent to secure asylum assessment camps for a minimum of 12 months to be properly and rigorously assessed AND educated. -Early stage problems moved to with other specialised camps or to a third country —Deported migrants back to country of origin or third party country —In first 12 months - no follow ons, zero tolerance, many will work in controlled secure environment’s as part of the assessment. Alternative asylum process - -Picked up in English Channel and taken to third country assessment secure camps outside of EU/ECHR jurisdiction. UK folk only want decent people not criminals or economic migrants. They come undocumented, they have no right to be mixing with citizens until we know who they are - end of

@peg_roger @Tuttlebees @anon_opin What do you mean there’s nothing left to nationalise? Water? Railways? I don’t take issue with all of your points but I think you’re living in a fantasy in which you think capitalism=meritocracy…which is incorrect. Then you’re upset that you work hard and others don’t

I like honesty. Your politics is for the birds but you believe in it. You can’t , long term, fund your politics. It’s an extreme Marxist dream within a capitalist society. There is nothing left to Nationalise because we are no longer the Industrialised nation we once were. We service provide. That can be done from a PC sat in another country. Wealth from this is easily transferred. Corbyn has never had a proper job. He is an activist. He hasn’t got a clue how a successful economy works. Without one you can’t help those in need. He wants the ROW to come here. His brother roams London streets with an arrow bag on his back full of different protest flags ready for action when needed. Labelling working people and businesses as friend and foe is counter productive. The 2 can’t be separated. The worker needs a business for a job. The business will go elsewhere if the worker can’t do the job - in the Private Sector. The Private Sector creates all wealth to pay for the Public Sector. Corbyn thinks it is the other way around. He is deluded.

@peg_roger @Tuttlebees @anon_opin Yeah you told them to stay in France but that is not a ‘solution’. We tell them that and they say ‘ok no problem!’ ?? At the end of the day, criminals or not, they land on our shores. What do you do next?

@FullFatBlog @Tuttlebees @anon_opin As for smelly folk - I answered that you just ignored the answer.

@peg_roger @Tuttlebees @anon_opin I don’t work in the public sector. Well you can laugh at ‘smelly clothes’ but then you were outraged at the idea of giving a migrant clean clothes? I’m not even clear on whether you’re talking about migrants or asylum seekers..or where you want them to go when they arrive?

Ok this ends. Thanks for the chat. You contradict, obfuscate and waffle whilst I have given you plenty of reasons, you use throw away comments like “ life was different”. It was. It was much better than now. Political parties differed but the MPs within them were intelligent and put debate before gimmicks like falling off sailing boats. You are a Corbyn supporter, or you could be Corbyn himself. - all day every day and you work in the public sector. “Smelly clothes” made me smile. “Smelly” migrant pays criminal smuggler £2000 to cross channel. Solution - stay in France - buy some clothes with your own money - get a job- use that money to rent somewhere affordable or go back home to Saudi Arabia and continue your job in the Passport office.

@peg_roger @Tuttlebees @anon_opin You’re saying they couldn’t do anything they promised because of the coalition? Why did they fail in the 3 years they supposedly had? Seems like a lot of excuses. I don’t know why you’d believe they’d wanna help poor people

In reality we had about 3 years out of 14 of Tory rule but that has been tainted by events. -5 years in coalition with Lib Dem’s.A hung parliament voted for by electorate. -2 years with 30 seat majority then came EU referendum. -3 years Starmer led a revolt against democracy. Parliament stopped working whilst Starmer tried to reverse Brexit. Unelected May, a Remainer lied 125 times - “no deal is better than a bad deal” -2020 Boris had to lie to Parliament to get Brexit done. He lost his job for expediting democracy. -Covid came - 2 years locked down and Levelling Up money spent on Covid not on communities. -3 year War in Europe creating Cost of Living crisis. Thats 12 years out of Tory control where running government manifesto promises was impossible. It led to fallouts, sacking and destroyed truthful democracy forever. The Conservatives were not in controlled power for 14 years. Starmer should never have become PM - he lied his way into the job and previously caused many of the Brexit problems. He should lose his job today.

@peg_roger @Tuttlebees @anon_opin There aren’t enough jobs and not enough jobs pay a decent living wage. I’m not suprised people think working is useless. Boomer ‘bootstrap’ mentality does not fit convince anyone any more and rightly so. You guys have made this worse. Benefits and migrants are not the issue

Now you are contradicting yourself. Read what I have said. Politicians have created the permanent mess we now have to live in. Mass immigration over 2 generations has created a large lazy entitled mass of people who don’t want to work because it’s easier to work the system to get on benefits. 2 lads near me in their 20’s. Lovely lads. Helpful, kind and respectful. Neither work. One does odd jobs for cash. The other plays games all day and goes for a punt at night. Both are on welfare and benefits. They have both been conditioned by the state. It’s not their fault their mental capacity is not to work first claim second. That is the fault of politicians. There are tens of thousands like this. The UK is heading for a nightmare problem.

@peg_roger @Tuttlebees @anon_opin Yeah yeah, you think it’s virtuous that you were poor and didnt need help. You grew up in a different time when things were a lot cheaper for you. I don’t think ‘most benefits are not necessary’. What is that based on?

Life has only changed because politicians allowed that change to happen. I have been poor. I have never taken benefits. I worked 3 jobs. I worked 60 hour weeks. I have never broken laws(except sp 30) I have fully supported my family I am no different to any other able bodied person - nothing special. I know why many are on benefits. I know some benefits are necessary. Most benefits are not necessary. Politicians have made benefits an entitlement for able bodied people not a solution for those most in need.