MrG
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Reform UK will stand up for those who have paid in by keeping the triple lock for state pensioners. ✅
🚨 Myth Buster: We keep hearing that if foreigners left, the NHS would collapse and the economy would shrink. I’ve checked the government’s own data. If every Pakistani & Bangladeshi person in the UK vanished tomorrow — here’s exactly what would happen. Population: ~2.3 million (3.4% of the UK). Working-age: ~1.3 million. Employment rate: 61% (lowest among major groups), with full-time workers among the economically active at just 19.8% (vs national 34.9%). Real full-time job loss: max ~300,000 — under 1% of the entire UK workforce. NHS impact: ~20,000 staff lost (including ~3% of doctors) — locally disruptive in some areas, but nationally just another staffing gap that gets filled. On the flip side, this group accounts for 5–7% of preventable admissions (1.5–2× higher rates of diabetes, CVD and anaemia despite being 3.4% of the population). Beds would free up quickly. Welfare: Bangladeshis claim child benefit at 34%, Pakistanis at 30–33% (national ~18–19%). Disability Living Allowance rates are similar or higher. Net annual saving: £4–5 billion. (Conservative estimates). Prisons: ~2,600 inmates gone (~3% of total). Overcrowding drops from 102% to ~99%. £150–200 million saved yearly. (Note: Muslim inmates already disproportionately influence many prisons.) Grooming gangs: Operation Stovewood (Rotherham) — 64% of suspects Pakistani heritage. Greater Manchester audits — 52–54% Asian/Pakistani. Casey National Audit 2025: “Men of Asian and Pakistani ethnicity are disproportionately represented” in local data from key forces. Overnight, 30–65% of known perpetrators in those investigations disappear — and thousands of white working-class victims face no further risk from those networks. Timeline - First 24–48 hours: Almost nothing noticeable except emptier A&E chairs in places like Peterborough and Birmingham Heartlands. - 1 week–1 month: NHS waits in certain cities rise 5–10% (quickly absorbed), prisons get breathing room, Treasury notices £300–400 million a month no longer leaving the country. - 3–12 months: Permanent net fiscal saving of £4–5 billion/year (welfare +£4.5 bn, prisons +£0.4 bn, preventable NHS +£0.7 bn, minus ~£1 bn lost taxes). Northern towns lose 20–40% of residents; thousands of takeaways and corner shops close. The country does not collapse. Lights stay on. The NHS does not fall apart. This isn’t a proposal — it’s simply what the State’s own spreadsheets show (ONS 2021 Census & LFS 2024, DWP Stat-Xplore, NHS HES 2023-24, MoJ prison stats June 2025, Casey Audit 2025, NCA Operation Stovewood) when you stop lumping entire continents together. The operational hit is tiny. The fiscal relief and social relief are massive. A decades-long national stain lifts. Draw your own conclusions. (For historical perspective on how civilisations have handled similar patterns, the Christopher Hitchens clip on the Barbary slave trade and Jefferson’s response — from the original thread — is worth watching.) @RupertLowe10 @Con_Tomlinson
