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@_FloridaMan

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Everywhere, FL شامل ہوئے Ocak 2013
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Florida Man
Florida Man@_FloridaMan·
🚨 BREAKING: MUELLER NEWS 🚨 Only joking, but for real, the Florida Legislature is trying to disenfranchise voters with some bullshit shenanigans. Sign this petition to prove you’re cool and I’ll follow you out of solidarity. change.org/p/florida-legi…
Florida Man@_FloridaMan

I’ve seen some truly insane things come out of Florida over the last few years, but I don’t think anything has shocked me more than what the state legislature is currently trying to do to the voting rights of ex-felons. slate.com/news-and-polit…

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Florida Man
Florida Man@_FloridaMan·
@PaulGonzalez10 No. That would be a poll tax. I’m pointing out that even your best argument still doesn’t make any sense.
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Paul G
Paul G@PaulGonzalez10·
@_FloridaMan I mean you’re making my point for me. So you’re OK with making them pay any money owed that the judge set? Minus any collection fees? Answer that.
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Florida Man@_FloridaMan·
I’ve seen some truly insane things come out of Florida over the last few years, but I don’t think anything has shocked me more than what the state legislature is currently trying to do to the voting rights of ex-felons. slate.com/news-and-polit…
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Florida Man
Florida Man@_FloridaMan·
@PaulGonzalez10 Whether it’s true for a small number of cases or not, it creates a system where private companies decide whether people are allowed to vote or not. That’s not democracy.
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Paul G
Paul G@PaulGonzalez10·
@_FloridaMan That maybe true in a small number of cases, most of the time the collections are willing to take less than what they actually owe. This isn’t very hard, pay the money you owe “ that the judge set”, or you don’t get to vote.
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Florida Man
Florida Man@_FloridaMan·
@Lala11105 I don’t like the idea of for-profit companies deciding the severity of someone’s punishment, and if you care about democracy, you shouldn’t either.
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LiaDJ
LiaDJ@Lala11105·
@_FloridaMan Yes. You know how you avoid court fees and fines and the admin costs associated with them? Don't commit crimes.
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Florida Man
Florida Man@_FloridaMan·
@Lala11105 Even if that debt isn’t part of their original fine but comes from service fees levied by private collection agencies?
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LiaDJ
LiaDJ@Lala11105·
@_FloridaMan Paying one's debt to society means exactly that. Completion of a sentence includes paying all outstanding debt. Fair is fair.
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Florida Man
Florida Man@_FloridaMan·
@PaulGonzalez10 Often the money they owe isn’t part of their sentence, but fees added by private collection agencies. Sometimes as much as 40% of the original fine.
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Paul G
Paul G@PaulGonzalez10·
@_FloridaMan It’s not a tax. It’s money they owe to complete their sentences. When a judge hands out a sentence money owed is included. Not hard here.
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Florida Man@_FloridaMan·
@nanner625 In Florida, courts often outsource collection to private companies, and they can tack on up to 40% in fees and surcharges, which people then get stuck paying long after their original fine is settled. Not sure what that’s got to do with paying your debt to society.
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BulletproofGal
BulletproofGal@nanner625·
@_FloridaMan Its not a poll tax imo, its repaying a previously owned debt to society. There are many states where felons never get their voting rights restored so making resititution isnt that insane.
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Florida Man
Florida Man@_FloridaMan·
@6jtd6 It creates a system where if you have money to pay the fees (which, I should say, are often surcharges levied by private collection agencies) you can participate in democracy. But if you’re poor, you can’t. It kind of undermines the whole “all men are created equal” thing.
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Florida Man
Florida Man@_FloridaMan·
@putnamnation They are absolutely the same issue. But appreciate you acknowling it’s dumb and unfair.
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Andrew Putnam
Andrew Putnam@putnamnation·
@_FloridaMan yeah that's dumb, unfair and something I was unaware of, but also sounds like a separate issue.
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Florida Man
Florida Man@_FloridaMan·
@putnamnation Actually, in many cases, the money people owe isn’t going back to “society", but private collection companies that can add up to 40% in surcharges for no reason other than it makes them richer. miamiherald.com/news/local/com…
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Andrew Putnam
Andrew Putnam@putnamnation·
@_FloridaMan so they haven't actually repaid their debt to society then, they've just served their tax paid sentence.
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The Jaded Crawler
The Jaded Crawler@Jaded_Crawler·
@_FloridaMan "Wanting felons to vote, most who are statistically proven to be repeated offenders, and not just any felon but a Floridian felon"
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Florida Man
Florida Man@_FloridaMan·
Okay, earnest tweets over. I promise I'll tweet something funny again soon.
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Florida Man
Florida Man@_FloridaMan·
For real, I currently only follow Jimmy Buffett, but I'm willing to let that insanely funny bit die for this cause, because it clearly deserves more attention.
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