@RinguReko No. Dupes TRIVIALIZE endgame. If youre complaining while having a full M6W5 character youre just ass at the game. People are killing bosses with M1 & M2. M6 is overkill.
English
TheLoopCat
512 posts
Hace un tiempo leí por Reddit o por aquí (no recuerdo muy bien).
Que si tienes dinero y sacas los personajes full dupes no tienes derecho a quejarte de ninguno de los endgames ni de la subida de vida y hubo un debate alrededor de ese tema.
Y justo me acabo de acordar, porque me salió un Tik Tok de un usuario con todos los personajes de HSR E6S5.
Así que quería preguntaros algo similar.
¿Vosotros cómo veis que alguien con full dupes se queje de los endgames?
¿Creéis que tiene el mismo derecho a quejarse que un F2p?
Español
@Bluechi05690757 Lmao I wouldnt be caught dead pulling those characters anyways. Imagine wasting your pulls on a character that is little more than a novelty item🤭 S3 Baseline to even compete with current characters is genuinely insane.
English
Y'all motherfuckers are greedy.
That's all that is to it.
Y'all had 1 year to save up.
But y'all chose FOMO 🙄
If you want all the 3.4 characters, PAY THE FUCK UP!!!
If not stfu.
And it's common sense that collab banners will have separate pull currencies.
YIA-Riju@Riju1T_T
All Pull Milestones for the Collab limited pulling event!! #wuwa #wutheringwaves
English
@kkidization @nisabayon Considering Steam will only collect metrics from users who downloaded it from steam. Anyone who already plays it wont show up. So the numbers on steam mean quite literally nothing when the game has been out almost 3 years already.
English
@nisabayon In general no Comparatively yes like when zzz launches on steam I will genuinely be shocked if zzz is even close to like 8k peak player base
English
@DotChopp You doubt Velina will be strong in meta? Why? Shes quite literally THE wind enabler.
English
Me pregunto cuál habrá sido la razón de que Billy sea el promocional con peores ventas día 1, fue su kit? Su diseño? El personaje? Que sea hombre? Ahora no hay Void Hunter al cual echarle la culpa XD
Y velina por mucho elemento nuevo que traiga, dudo que sea tan fuerte en meta
Español
@SilencedVouivre @DimPacifistV2 The game is called Primo.
It launched before ZZZ and before the game that OP claimed ZZZ ‘stole’ from. Also, its lining things up in sequence, not exactly an earthshattering innovative puzzle. Get real.
English
@DimPacifistV2 Notice none of them provided an actual game
Don't put your trust into things you believe existed there's a name for that
English
I feel like I'm going insane reading the qtr's because I remember playing puzzle games like this years and years before zzz when I was a kid
Michael Kamm - Ouros Out Now (iOS, Android, Steam)@GRdotGIF
Last year, miHoYo copied my puzzle game Ouros in Zenless Zone Zero. Because they are a recognized, billion-dollar studio and my game isn't well known, some people are now assuming that their version is the original, and mine is the clone. I hope this video clears that up.
English
@naraix00 @yuki420_69 @DejaWukong Ill dumb it down more for you. This is only for meaningless NPC interactions OUTSIDE of story/quests. You cant even talk to any non-special npcs in hoyo games. Those characters didnt have a writer to begin with because they didnt have dialogue.
English
@_TheLoopCat_ @yuki420_69 @DejaWukong Thats quite hypocritical to say that, even if hundreds of people is exaggerated but you are still diminishing work of writers and thats okay because?
English
I wonder if ironmouse, shylilly and jowol are gonna stick to their morals with this one 🤔
Ninjago@Ninjago9101
HoYoverse plans to invest up to ¥100 Billion RMB (~$22B USD) into AI over the next 3 years: • Full-stack AI strategy built completely in-house • AI-powered NPCs & advanced in-game interactions • Future projects like Petit Planet are expected to heavily use AI NPCs
English
@yuki420_69 @naraix00 @DejaWukong So, WWM did the AI-Chatbot thing for meaningless NPC interactions and it didnt affect the story or the important interactions. Because again, its only for the meaningless NPC interactions any real, actually important dialogue would not be using this.
English
@DejaWukong What a sad attempt at a gotcha moment 🤭 you referenced Ironmouse (who was mad about the undisclosed use of GEN-AI) which is what your entire post was built on. The only one who is an ass here is you 🤭
English
@_TheLoopCat_ See when you assume, you make an ass out of me and you. At what point did I say I don't understand the difference?
English
@NexusChaos @phlauxthefox @DejaWukong Good thing we arent discussing the use, but rather how it will affect the final product. So again, your point?
English
@_TheLoopCat_ @phlauxthefox @DejaWukong Every company uses every Ai available just cuz some don’t apply them to the final product like NTE did doesn’t mean they don’t use it
English
@NexusChaos @phlauxthefox @DejaWukong I literally didnt say “all AI bad”
Weaponizing incompetence or actually stupid?
English
@naraix00 @DejaWukong Yeah but again, the distinction of Gen-Ai for random un-voiced NPC conversation AI, and generative Ai used for art/designs/textures absolutely matters in this scenario because THATS what people have an issue with. Not Ai as a concept
English
@_TheLoopCat_ @DejaWukong I agree, but thats genAI regardless. Just because it was trained on their own data it doesn’t make it any more valuable.
I think thats why hoyo wants to invest so much on it to feed it strict quality datasets so it works well like in pokemon I guess, but it still will be genAI.
English
@naraix00 @DejaWukong Not in the same way as generative AI used for art and designs. They are responding to your prompts by generating an answer that makes sense. They are not stealing someone elses work, sloppily, often with un-edited errors and still released with the main game. Its half baked vibes
English
@_TheLoopCat_ @DejaWukong Why are you bringing up pokemon for tho?
I have no clue about whats going on in pokemon. If it’s behavioural ai then thats been around since decades now. If its interaction wise then thats genai buddy, and same will apply for the hoyo. Or are you saying ai writing isnt genAI?.
English
@UwU__Dark @DejaWukong They do not have the same purpose nor the same effect. Seeing art/designs/posters in game that are OBVIOUSLY Gen-Ai is detrimental to the overall experience of the game. Speaking to an NPC while having a wealth of ways to respond is an enrichment of the experience.
English
@UwU__Dark @DejaWukong Not in the same capacity. Notice how I said (in terms of design). The AI isnt stealing the work of someone else when its replying to your prompts in game. Its not stealing someone else’s property, doing so incorrectly, oftentimes with errors left un-edited, and put into a game.
English
@UwU__Dark @DejaWukong Which is exactly what WWM did with the AI for their NPCs for non-voiced interactions and it was completely fine. The false equivalence some people attribute to Gen-Ai(for designs) vs other types of AI is ridiculous.
English
@_TheLoopCat_ @DejaWukong Here AI NPCs probably means LLMs powered NPCs
English
@naraix00 @DejaWukong That only works if im incorrect, which im not. So, your point?
NPCs in Pokemon, and enemy trainers are AI. That is not the same as the generative slop ai yall seem to love defending so much.
English
@_TheLoopCat_ @DejaWukong Or maybe you should do what you are suggesting for others first 😭
English
@phlauxthefox @DejaWukong It literally doesnt say that anywhere and youre just saying shit but ok.
English
@_TheLoopCat_ @DejaWukong You must not be aware, game devs are playing around with gen AI for NPC design, dialogue, etc
English