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@JennaCyder @jlippincott do you plan on never taking your kids to any location with active roadways or what? this can even be a school or church. kids love taking off running for whatever reason.

@jlippincott What’s with everyone allowing their child into these unspecific but “dangerous” situations that I keep reading about?

Human beings learn through three modes: 1) pleasure and pain 2) honor and shame 3) reason Children have undeveloped reason. Due to a lack of experience and thinking power, they struggle to follow a premise through a chain of reasoning to a conclusion. Children are responsive to honor and shame but not perfectly so. They are often shameless. Children will, in the absence of instruction, engage in emotional outbursts in public, insist on their own will, lash out physically when they don't get their way, and completely disregard the feelings of others. They do this not because they are evil but because they are ignorant. They don't have a developed theory of mind for others and their passions and physical sensations govern their conduct to a very high degree. It is difficult for a child to understand even the passing of time, much less the importance of deferred consumption. For all these reasons, children need parents to guide them through their early youth. The parent's reason substitutes for the child's deficiency. The purpose of the parent's authority is to protect the body of the child from harm while cultivating the child's mind until he can reach the age of freedom. During this time, and especially in the early youth, children require firm boundaries and a clear hierarchy of authority. They need this for their physical safety and for the maintenance of an orderly and structured home. The use of physical pain is one of the clearest and most effective ways of establishing this authority. Pain is sharp and decisive. It does not require the child to understand things they find unintelligible. Nor does it depend on their undeveloped sense of shame or their capacity for memory (which is weak). It is not necessary that a child understand what a speeding vehicle will do to a human body to know that they get a sharp rap on the wrist every time they run towards a busy street. Pain is a powerful and important teacher. A judicious parent should use this tool. A few crucial boundaries: parents should never hit a child in anger. They should never berate or insult the child. Spanking is not an "outlet" for the parent's emotions. Each use of physical punishment should come with a careful explanation of why this punishment was necessary and a reminder that the child is loved, that the discipline comes from a place of care for the child. The purpose of all parenting, again, is to raise the child to independence and freedom, to the use of their own reason. The end goal of all discipline by the parent is to one day come to a place of friendship and equality with the adult child.

@PunishedJeanLuc @mean_field_zane once again, we're talking about two groups of people. those girls are all a specific subgroup with comparable behaviors, and we are talking about a different type. it doesnt mean the other group doesnt exist

@apeirozenith @mean_field_zane No, a lot of girls during hookups want emotional support and to talk for hours on end as part of the package. Not all, but again if you had a bodycount close to 100 like I did you'd know its at least half.

@mean_field_zane Honestly if you're that fucking autistic and talked to her for three hours without figuring out she isn't into you then you are a creep

@PunishedJeanLuc @mean_field_zane also having a gf doesnt really matter in this scenario. plenty of couples date because they just want an emotional support fuck buddy, not because they deeply love everything about that person. that could be your case for all i know

@PunishedJeanLuc @mean_field_zane we're describing two types of people. anyone who hooks up will for all intense and purposes, fuck anyone. there isnt a bar and your personality matters very little. its temporarily satiating an internal hunger. the women we're describing are the opposite of this.

@PunishedJeanLuc @mean_field_zane Key word was talked to. Most hookups are very impersonal and don’t involve talking to the same one for extended periods of time. Any decent dude who’s tried to talk to a woman to date and not just fuck that night can attest to stories like this.

@apeirozenith @mean_field_zane I have a girlfriend and a bodycount close to 100

Useful point on this is that Sam Hyde's upbringing was firmly upper middle class--he and his parents lived in an affluent area and Sam's public behavior has always implied a UMC upbringing. His views on corporal punishment are a strong tell for this. UMCs are pretty much universally opposed to physical punishment of any kind, including the occasional spanking, which they're convinced will turn their kids into emotionally harmed psychopaths. They can't tell the difference between actual physical abuse and physical discipline like spanking, used sparingly and to reinforce a sense of consequence for dangerous behavior. Spanking for not eating his broccoli? Probably excessive and futile. But spanking for doing something that could bring serious harm to another child or to himself? Probably warranted. Ironically Sam cites a bunch of social science to the effect that spanking is harmful, but these studies are worth less than the paper they're printed on. This is due to problems like study sample, definitional issues with corporal punishment, conflation of emotional and verbal abuse with physical abuse, and researcher bias.  It's simply an area of life that does not lend itself to this type of scientific study because each case must be put in its own precise context. Meanwhile, looking at child and adolescent behavior today, it is very difficult to conclude that the decline in corporal punishment has produced better behaved offspring. Liberal parenting which consists of negotiation/multiple choice outcomes ("eat your peas and you can have your iPad") leaves children feeling unparented and unprotected. One of the forgotten benefits of parental discipline that includes corporal punishment is that it reassures the child that he lives in a world of order and in which he has a strong protector. The parent who relies only on words and unwonted application of "the rules" cannot bestow this sense of safety. (There are many ways to reinforce this aside from discipline, but liberals tend not to do any of them because they themselves have a neurotic relationship with authority.) It is commonly observed that parents who are weak (i.e. follow fashionable liberal dictates) often have unruly children, precisely because their children feel a compulsion to test their boundaries to find out how unsafe they are. It is as though they are unconsciously aware that a weak parent cannot protect them, and they must therefore become more aggressive themselves to compensate. This is also implicated in cases of disrespect and open defiance--corporal punishment here is futile precisely because the symptoms already indicate the child does not feel protected by a weak or variable parent, therefore punishment will only increase his feelings of insecurity. Then there's the fact that corporal punishment has been far and away more demonized than a much greater parental failing: emotional and verbal abuse. (It just so happens that mothers are frequently a source for these, because women lack the ability to strongly lead and tend to be purely reactive to disobedience.) Studies on corporal punishment mix up the data, ignoring the fact that frequent corporal punishment is likely accompanied by either neglectful parenting or a short emotional fuse. Any kind of chaos in the home will also produce the same sort of insecurity, as will parental passivity and a domineering mother. "Spanking lowers IQ" is where it gets truly eye-rolling. It's basically science fiction for liberals (who "don't believe in" IQ, except when they need to insult non-liberals). Dude, you're just noticing that white people have been gulled by social science majors into completely folding because "the science" says everyone in human history was wrong until 1970. Here's what I notice in the real world: fathers are the most important element in successful child rearing. Fathers who invest in their child's growth and maturity, who set a positive model for the child, and who provide consistent boundaries that ensure the child's feeling of security will almost invariably produce good sons and daughters. Fathers who are passive, variable, undisciplined, weak, or who allow a neurotic mother to interfere in the child's upbringing will always produce erratic results. Liberals have used the spanking debate to get around all this; in effect it allows them to say, "I'm a good parent because I use my words instead of my hand." This is how liberals approach reality.

@CuriousBunnie12 You’re struggling to wrap your mind around it because you don’t think loving someone means doing what is for their own good. The average parent feels bad spanking their kid, but the alternative is they don’t learn and continue to be problematic and potentially hurt themselves

I’ve seen this “my parents calmly told me what I did wrong and spanked me after” as like a form of “ethical spanking” and I find it a thousand times more psychotic than a smack in a fit of emotion

@konata4prez2028 @PalePen15 @JadeAtrophis You’re the type of person to watch a video on how to produce music and then complain when they bring up music theory as if it were irrelevant

My helpful guide to anyone offering parenting advice: Do they have kids themselves? (Y/N) Y: Okay I will take your opinion into account N: No your opinion is discounted

@konata4prez2028 @PalePen15 @JadeAtrophis Also no clue how you’re associating discipline with liberals. Soft parenting is the most liberal coded behavior out there.

@PalePen15 @konata4prez2028 @JadeAtrophis This obv doesn’t mean that spanking guarantees they’ll always listen, but in most cases with kids like this, spanking does make them more likely to take you seriously. The notion that it backfires 100% of the time is just completely incorrect and not based in facts or evidence

@PalePen15 @konata4prez2028 @JadeAtrophis Let’s say you have a difficult child that won’t listen to you no matter what type of verbal reasoning you use (super common). They don’t respond when you shout. One day they run out into the street and ignore your calls and they get hit. Was this avoidable?

@konata4prez2028 @JadeAtrophis So how does this work if people who weren’t spanked are anxious adults and people who were spanked aren’t anxious. Like if we can understand the nuance of “not everyone the same”, then you can understand that not everyone who’s spanked becomes a certain way

@JadeAtrophis Doesn't change the fact hes right. Its nigger behavior and will contribute to making your kid an anxious adult

@ExeterDuke @pilgoth Anti-spank people have to mentally decide spanking is equivalent to extreme abuse, otherwise they’ll start to logically understand the difference, but they don’t want to. They also will refuse to answer the question “are all kids the exact same” because they know what it implies

People who got hit as a child will fight tooth and nail to keep the practice normalized just so they dont have to admit they got beat for nothing. You're literally hazing a baby. Forgive your parents but break the cycle.

@Evabrownies420 @eitan_veritas @pilgoth Weird, had multiple anti-spanking people throw insults at me unwarranted in the original post. I guess gentle parenting doesn’t make a difference there either

@eitan_veritas @pilgoth Yet it's made you angry and flinging insults at someone who disagrees on hitting kids Interesting

@HowlindedHitler @JordanBVide0s @wigger @revela_tr It wasn’t necessary because I never got spanked past a young age. I’m a successful engineer that makes friends easily, is liked by most of my coworkers, and routinely has long conversations with strangers at the bar. I think my parents raised me well

@apeirozenith @JordanBVide0s @wigger @revela_tr Yeah but was it actually necessary and would things have been better off without it? You're retarded but equally stubborn and acting like a child over this discussion so I can tell that seeing corporal punishment didn't help you become a well adjusted adult

Hitting your kids is in the same category as circumcision, iPads, strict adherence to the CDC vaccine schedule---it is for Ns, goyim, and walmart pajama people. It lowers IQ (Straus, 1995), increases aggression (Gershoff, 2016), is less effective than a timeout, and requires escalation to keep working. The replies to articles like this are filled up with the Dumbest People Who Ever Existed saying "it worked for me" and then genuinely malicious and hateful morons dropping reaction gifs of like daffy duck swinging a belt "EVERY STATE IN AMERICA ALLOWS YOU TO PHYSICALLY CORRECT YOUR CHILD. It's legal. It's fun. Bring it on." -- profile says: Cat Sanctuary Dad. Unyielding steel. Workouts, keto, cat chaos, anime rants. Godzilla, Gundam, Mazinger, Ultraman, classical art, manga. If you hit your kids, you will create permanent emotional distance with the only person/people you could ever be that close to, not to mention sending them down the road of being as much of a lost fuckup loser as you are who will hit their own kids, or wont, but only after spending a decade figuring out why they reflexively apologize all the time.

@HowlindedHitler @JordanBVide0s @wigger @revela_tr Oh right, I forgot that the way you are is exactly how everyone else in the world is. I’m so dumb. What’s weird is I didn’t care about being out in timeout because I’d just hang out and chill. It wasn’t a punishment. That wasn’t threatening to me, being spanked was. So I behaved

@apeirozenith @JordanBVide0s @wigger @revela_tr You must be childless then I absolutely hated being in timeout and in a corner as a kid it's the most painfully understimulating thing you can do to a child which is why it works so well

@HowlindedHitler @JordanBVide0s @wigger @revela_tr I’m glad that works for you and that kid. Some kids don’t like being separated and that is actually punishment. What about when the kid doesn’t give a fuck if they’re in timeout or not? Are all kids the same? Yes or no

@apeirozenith @JordanBVide0s @wigger @revela_tr I put them in the corner or timeout because I don't need fear to get people and especially children to respect my authority. Having to resort to violence to get your kid to listen is you admitting to yourself that you are a terrible parent

@HowlindedHitler @JordanBVide0s @wigger @revela_tr This is the epitome of childless arrogance. The archetype parent who believes they have the solution to parenting that no other parent possesses, and their kids will cooperate through your percfect methods! Tale as old as time. Kids can be terrorists you can’t negotiate with

@apeirozenith @JordanBVide0s @wigger @revela_tr You don't need to hit or spank kids to get them to behave. That seems to be the part that you're not understanding here