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@DanDreyer420 @jam_x23 @jason_hamm52826 @dpshow Yep. Still thinks they have the same OL as did 4 years ago. They need depth but the starting crew is more than solid, as we saw last year.

@jam_x23 @jason_hamm52826 @dpshow Bro is a cheifs fan he knows this moves makes us the better team

"I didn't like the move for the #Bengals." – DP on the Dexter Lawrence trade.

@jason_hamm52826 @jam_x23 @dpshow Yes - you did. This is kind of move those other SB teams didn’t make. And why is anyone with healthy burrow chase and Tee worried about 2030 as opposed to 2026-28 when all are in prime and under contract?

@bpret @jam_x23 @dpshow I didn't move the goal post. Giving up a top 10 pick on a dude that is almost 30, that you have to pay is stupid.

@jason_hamm52826 @jam_x23 @dpshow Moving the goalposts. You critized bengals for always doing the same thing with no success (most of us have also). Then they do something different, aggressive, win now and…you aren’t for it? Make up your mind.

@bpret @jam_x23 @dpshow The dude had a half a sack last year.

@jason_hamm52826 @jam_x23 @dpshow But they’ve drafted guy and hoped - for 60 years. They’ve never traded a top 10 pick for a guarantee.

@jam_x23 @dpshow Instead of a rookie contract with 5 years of control. The bunguls are 0-3 in Superbowls so yes everything they do get extra scrutiny.

@chillwavechirp1 @StevenGantzer @ASUJBL @wingoz Extended 1 year 28 mil. Bengals giving him less money than Trey apy and his contract will be done by time he’s currently Trey’s age.

@StevenGantzer @ASUJBL @wingoz And Dexter Lawrence will get a similar deal to what Trey Hendrickson signed for with the ravens

So let me get this straight: it’s a deep defensive draft… so you trade away a top 10 pick where you could lock up a younger player for up to 5 years…. for an older ( but very good) player…who can walk in 2 years as a free agent?

@hickenbo3 @Kmalbanese But a 1 and 2 is def more. And if cowboys don’t make playoffs it’s gonna be way more.

@bpret @Kmalbanese Yes he did he also didn’t just go for a for sure guaranteed top 10 draft selection. Richard Seymour is the closest comp your going to find and that’s pick 17

The only reason anyone hates the Lawrence deal is because it’s the Bengals. Don’t let anyone bait you.

@hickenbo3 @Kmalbanese Q Williams - who’s also 28, went for a 2 in ‘26 and a 1 in ‘27 just 5 months ago.

@Kmalbanese @bpret Yes I’m the narcissist for basing what I’m saying on the 60 years of the Super Bowl era and how steep of a price tag that is considering it’s never been that high. But you as the bengals fan somehow knows more than any gm over that time frame and the bengals are correct

@hickenbo3 @Kmalbanese And I shouldn’t have to explain the gap of winning a SB vs not winning a SB.

@bpret @Kmalbanese Yes and the value difference between a top 10 pick to a second round I should have to explain the gap there

@hickenbo3 @Kmalbanese Literally said Chris jones was in Dex spot two years ago but KC didn’t move him.

@bpret @Kmalbanese Did I say Chris jones and KC is just like the giants no I said Chris jones was in a holdout just like Dexter was threatening. It was damn smart on NY they got a top 10 pick for a DT. They now have 2 top 10 picks to add to a young talented team. They did great

@hickenbo3 @Kmalbanese giants traded Leonard Williams 2 seasons ago at deadline, at age 29. It wasn’t for pick 10 - 2nd and 5th, but no question who winner of that trade was. And then Seattle extended him for 3 years.

@Kmalbanese @bpret Chris jones was just in the Dexter Lawrence spot 2 seasons back but KC didn’t move him they let him hold out but KC did get offers for him. Jeffery Simmons right now hasn’t demanded a trade but teams have called the titans about him. Because teams don’t move elite DT’s

@hickenbo3 @Kmalbanese In his defense - you brought up work, not him. And then bragged about how happy this conversation was making you.

@Kmalbanese @bpret Yep you got me McDonald’s on the weekends and goodwill on weekdays that’s how I make it work, you know when you make someone look like a dipshit. When they have to change the argument or try and make personal attacks because they can’t deal with what the actual topic is

@hickenbo3 @Kmalbanese Got plenty of receipts of people saying they need to improve their D and the next sentence saying they should save their pick. All need to do is look 👆

@Kmalbanese @bpret You wanna start seeing receipts of people now mocking bengals fans who were advocating to keep the pick who since the trade have switched up completely saying it’s what they wanted the entire time because oh man it’s fucking hilarious to see the switch ups

@hickenbo3 @Kmalbanese And there are tons that say do it. Each roster provides different variables that make it yes or no. But the consensus from folks who beleive they need more high impact D say do it - you are one of the exceptions. Unless you suggest to wait till Chase/tee out of their primes?

@Kmalbanese @bpret There are tons of people in your own fan base on this app who said not to give up pick 10 for Lawrence because he’s a DT at his age coming off his worst year but now the deal is made people wanna pretend like they were not on here saying the same shit I’m saying now then

@Kmalbanese @hickenbo3 There’s also a draft in 5 days. lol. Maybe they add another piece or two.

@hickenbo3 @bpret Enough for what ? Either they can make a run like you just said or they can’t. Make up your mind.

@hickenbo3 @Kmalbanese None of us know for sure - but adding a player like Dex gets them closer, and much closer than taking a CB or S at pick 10.

@bpret @Kmalbanese With what’s there now isn’t enough still

@hickenbo3 @Kmalbanese Yes we know because it happened already! They had reader Hubbard ofunjobi Trey young LBs and a solid secondary. That paired with elite offense got bengals within a FG of a SB. When ogunjobi hurt - no inside pass rush and rams had Donald.

@bpret @Kmalbanese Brother I get what your saying and it’s why I agreed on the comp should be the 21-22 rams but look at all the talent that rams defense had and it was still league average. If the bengals can get a league average defense they probably will make a SB run but Lawrence

@Kmalbanese @hickenbo3 It’s weird to suggest hoping for someone to fall to them at 10 will Make the D better over prime Dex. We tired that last year - Nolan went pick before. Most mocks have them taking CB or S at 10.

@hickenbo3 @bpret I’m done. You haven’t made a single compelling point. He’s better than anything 10 gives them in a win now year. This trade was about NOW, not later. End. Of. Story. If you don’t agree with that, you’re beyond help.

@hickenbo3 @Kmalbanese No what I’m saying. U keep harping bengals d won’t be good. Because of their offense - they don’t need to be. Need to be average. Before this trade - weren’t there. With Dex - they could be. And no one in draft could get them there this year. That’s my point

@bpret @Kmalbanese The bengals have an elite offense I’m sorry do I need to complement you guys for my point to get across ? Burrow and Chase are elite Higgins is the best 2 in football. Chase brown is good the o line is better. It doesn’t change the fact that defense has to get better to contend

@hickenbo3 @Kmalbanese With an actual secondary and Burrow/Chase/Tee - possibly though. Which is all we’ve been saying. You’re hyping up giants other DL and just ignoring the wide gap on other side of ball.

@Kmalbanese @bpret Yes it’s just me who says 31 year old Jonathon Allen mafe and Myles Murphy isn’t as good as Brian burns, Abdul carter and Darius Alexander