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@adhee1673 @Somef340067 @gabecommunista no worries! goodnight :)

@pcuser1968 @Somef340067 @gabecommunista I’ll reply you in the morning, it’s late here and I’m about to crash.

A quick reminder for midwits who ignore critiques of political economy - communists critique capitalism not because it fails, but because it operates exactly as designed. Both its advantages and its drawbacks are inherent features of the system.

@adhee1673 @Somef340067 @gabecommunista okay, but why would the abolition of capitalism be desirable if communism wouldn't be able to raise (or maintain) life expectancy? and along with capitalism came plenty of good things like technological progress, etc, will that be abolished too? or do you mean something different

@pcuser1968 @Somef340067 @gabecommunista Communism isn’t a ‘fix’ for capitalism it’s the complete abolition of capitalism and everything that comes with it.

@adhee1673 @Somef340067 @gabecommunista i'm a different person? please calm down lol i didn't dismiss it. i simply said that if communism couldn't achieve those things then it wouldn't be desirable. this isn't about definitions, though ofc we can talk about that if you want

@pcuser1968 @Somef340067 @gabecommunista You go full clueless about what communism actually is, then try to dismiss it using stats that I literally said don’t even define communism lol.

@adhee1673 @Somef340067 @gabecommunista whatever it is about, if it can't achieve those things then it probably isn't that desirable.

@Somef340067 @gabecommunista Do you think communism is about getting people out of poverty, educating women, or boosting life expectancy?

@_A_Prayer i am definitely not gonna succeed! but i'd be happy if i even got just the "ethics -> communism" part looking coherent, but that is notoriously hard already lol

@_A_Prayer i try! i'd like to have an inseperable epistemology, value theory (as in axiology), theory of capitalism, etc, but i think basically every philosophical project that has tried to do this through whatever angle has failed. so i doubt i'm the one who is gonna succeed

There's an interview of Camatte where he says that what little he's understood of Heidegger, he's found in absolute alignment with his thought, but that he hasn't got enough time left to delve into it.

@_A_Prayer so i am definitely not at ease on the left either. maybe i should go live in the countryside like camatte

@_A_Prayer i find that increasingly fewer people on the left share my main political commitment (basically formulating a communist alternative that doesn't collapse back into value production), and even fewer are interested in my philosophical commitments (anti-realism/scepticism)

@_A_Prayer 29 is young! it's young! maybe i'll be a disillusioned rwer too when i'm older... maybe Immigration will change me. but i've sent a few illegals your way so maybe I'm way too deep now...

@pcuser1968 I'm old and dying (29)...

@_A_Prayer the content is the same. but rightists tend to be waaay more interested in demonizing (and oppressing) women back instead of debunking misconceptions. in practice it is an inegalitarian project re: gender imo, maybe you want to change the dom. norms in your subcultures though?

@_A_Prayer i guess i'd call this an overcorrection? i dislike the way that male sexuality is treated too (which are acts judged against a social context that is bad and unequal, but might be harmless in specific cases) and actually the way that lesbian sexuality might be celebrated when...

@_A_Prayer curious as to what you mean by revolutionary here. and also what you find appealing in nationalism vs internationalism (or abolition), but that's a hard question i suppose... i've always found it irrational, but i'll admit i've never been the most thorough in thinking about it

@pcuser1968 The friends I have on the far-right aren't strategic, they've honest affiliations. I believe the post-war order is built in such a way that they are more concretely revolutionary than the postwar left.

@_A_Prayer and "my side" uses bad science too but i begrudgingly side with them for instrumental reasons. my point about strategy applied to me.

@_A_Prayer no, i mean there are some good HBD stuff but people usually prefer the "would get debunked by a stats 101 class" tier stuff. i try to assume that a smart interlocutor would prefer the former! but geez do twitter reactionaries like the latter....

@_A_Prayer that's fair, it wasn't like a goal of mine to meet him haha. but i'd never ignore an opportunity to hatewatch an ultra talk 🙂 how old are you btw if you don't mind me asking

@pcuser1968 I never met him personally, I was one degree of separation away. But I also didn't really care, I was more interested in actually having a local impact and presence.

@_A_Prayer lots of liberal nationalists nowadays. but from what i see (and forgive any misrepresentation) you're in cahoots with reactionaries whose commitments go way further than The Nation (trans issues, bad HBD science, women's rights, etc). is this strategic for you?

@pcuser1968 Well obviously nationalism was left-wing even before that but I'm thinking within a certain periodisation.

@_A_Prayer I met coupat once after a talk and everything he said was so vapid idk. it was around covid so that was the topic and i couldn't follow the conversation well bc the other speaker had an unintelligible English accent.

@_A_Prayer which is why it appeals to people who don't know much (annoying TEENAGERS)! kinda gives people a similar arrogance to reading foucault. speaking from regrettable experience

@_A_Prayer what do you find valuable about the ultraleft and how do you reconcile it with your broader rw positions

@pcuser1968 ‘I think I also like what you dislike there...’

@_A_Prayer but if tiqqun is anything to go by then he'd just be annoying like them...

@_A_Prayer he was one of the most heideggerian communists and he got there partly by working within and through the bordigist tradition. also what led him to his silly holocaust takes. thank god he didn't get into heidegger more, it would have been even uglier imo