@jooooma455015 @broboimation Sure, within the material he was fed
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CleanUpNick
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@CleanUpNick @broboimation Kinger literally states that Caine not only created the circus from nothing, but that the type of Ai caine is, literally makes up it's OWN ideas.
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Kinger quite literally said CREATIVE AI not GENERATIVE AI. Gen AI as we currently have it is not actually Artificial Intelligence. it can’t think, it can’t feel. Without humans it would collapse.
What Kinger described Caine as is an ACTUAL Artificial Intelligence. No slop.
soren | TADC8 SPOILERS@sorenxteru
so kinger is an ai user… Got it…
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@jooooma455015 @broboimation Those images ARE the data he's trained on, you train an image genai by feeding it a crap ton of images, though Caine was also fed a bunch of Neuralmaps when they were added to the circus instead of books and stuff chatbots are trained on but still
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@CleanUpNick @broboimation A generative ai can only create things that are a mix of the data it was trained on, while caine, who was only give pictures of places and objects in the real world, was able to create and understand abstract concepts, like story, Memory, identity, beauty, etc.
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@jooooma455015 @broboimation Because he doesn't need the initial prompt, it's what he was created to do, he was made to just create over and over, they click run and he creates, like if you opened a chatbot and sent a blank message to have it just generate a message
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@CleanUpNick @broboimation "Tell", the thing is, caine was never TOLD to do anything, he just starting creating things immediately after he was shown pictures of places and concepts.
The way caine creates things is fundamentally different from how generative ai creates things
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@jooooma455015 @broboimation i mean a GenAI absolutely can, if you tell a GenAI to just make up whatever it will do that and create something random on the spot, but yes Caine has more of a sentience but he is fundamentally a generative AI, he was made to create things so he does, he just never stopped
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@CleanUpNick @broboimation How... do think sapient beings work? Even the most intelligent life needs some sort of basics to create things, and what caine does is literally impossible for any generative ai to do, not only did he create the entire digital circus, UNPROMPTED, but he didn't just take the-
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@DaiTigris @broboimation he gave sloppy responses for the second round yes, plus he also only uses content from the images he was given for the adventures
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@CleanUpNick @broboimation My main point is that Caine reacts to the images he was given with shapes.
And if the whole reason they stopped using him had to do with not getting the wanted responses: then it would imply that he didn't know how to respond properly to the second set of images.
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@DaiTigris @broboimation Well yeah but Caine does the same thing, all of his adventures are based off of the images we see at the start
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@CleanUpNick @broboimation Thing about gAI is you can feed it all the data you like, but it won't blindly know unless you give it predefined references. That's the whole crux of image identification and why it fails when given an abstract or unknown subject that doesn't exist within it's database.
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@Rallo00l @broboimation Well no he doesn't, like yes he makes the prompt but overall all he only does it because he was promoted to continuously make stuff all of the time, like telling a chat bot to list off story ideas, sure he's more sentient but in the end that human element started it
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@CleanUpNick @broboimation This is the overall difference though Caine making the prompts is the elimination of the human aspect. It was fed things by humans to be trained but afterwards, Caine had control. If it was generative, there would need to be a constant input of material for it to generate from
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@broboimation how... how do you think Gen AI works? you feed it a bunch of context through images and videos and then it creates new stuff based on that context and a prompt, literally the only difference is Caine is semi conscious enough to be the one making the prompts
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@GlotLife well yeah the images are gonna be related? he referenced them. I’m not pro AI or anything but there is a difference here. Unless gooseworx says otherwise I’m believing this.
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@Thhnderbolt @Tastitara it was a coping mechanism, same with him saying everybody is an archetype in they all get guns, he knew it was real but was making himself believe it wasn't to keep himself sane, it's why getting close to Pomni started making things worse for him
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@Tastitara What does he mean by “this is real?” Like, did he think he was in a dream the whole time or something? I didn’t get this part
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@BowlToMe @YouNotGonnaWin i mean ima be honest it's not THAT hard to see it coming, Bubble WOULD be a twist villain, also voiced by Goose herself iirc so...
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after kinger pressed the delete button by accident, a "are you sure" prompt popped up, kinger inputs "NO" but someone named *u***e overrides it and takes over kingers keyboard and inputs "Y"
bro its fucking BUBBLE 😭
MthS (Commissions OPEN)@mthsmelo_
⚠️HUGE TADC SPOILERS⚠️ . . . . . . Kinger password is "queenie123" 💕 . . . Also... am i reading this wrong or was actualy Caine deleting himself?! when asked about the backup option, Kinger did chose one, but the system interpreted as none selected and proceded to a deletion+
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@truffzetruffle Best part is red all think Noms gone angst about Katty and is doing sibling rivalry stuff so they didn't take the talk on the bridge very seriously, oh MAN are they in for a crude awakening
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@4_cvit @Nominalgravy hi so vod when!??!! (/nf) my vod watcher self is in SHAMBLES about this rn through ONLY spoilers 😓💔
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@ElethianV @nathINSANE I saw DS2 and was like tf you talking about?
Forgot PC is coming this month lol
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@nathINSANE I like it, but so many games are coming out this month.
Crimson Desert,
Death Stranding 2,
RE9.
It's hard to find time or money for everything.
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@JKnight_1 @HYPEX well now we have Seven-ish vs Ice/IO...ish... lol
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@CleanUpNick @HYPEX We had Ghost vs Shadow, Seven vs IO, we could’ve gotten Fire vs Ice 💀
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@AskingTooth7110 @maluustarr @QNNbreaking either their gonna have him sacrifice Phil for it or they'll bring back all the eggs mutated into one creature he has to kill or something
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@maluustarr @QNNbreaking This is going to be interesting because the eggs aren't coming back...
It's going to be a mad man screaming over something that can't return, It's going to be heartbreaking 😅
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A BIT OF LORE UPDATE; #QSMP
Q!Maxo is trying to know how the eggs were made, because he wants to bring them back to the island, and also thinks that the federation is trying to drive him insane on purpose, letting him look like an crazy man waiting for something to happen.
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@JKnight_1 @HYPEX idk maybe we'll see him but ig we'll have to wait, maybe he'll be somebody we help out mid season or something
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@CleanUpNick @HYPEX Which I think was crazy cuz it should’ve been The Fire King (The Prisoner) starting the season off 😭
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@JKnight_1 @HYPEX i mean after all... Foundation WAS a Prisoner to start this season off... or something like that lmfao
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@CleanUpNick @HYPEX Imma be mad ash if they pull that shii off 😭 that would destroy The Prisoner character
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@JKnight_1 @HYPEX watch them pull some weird ass Foundation is a snapshot of Fire King bs or something
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