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@Ed__Reynolds So what is your opinion on the conversation into which you jumped, which concerned claims that national IQ figures for subsaharan Africa are 70 or lower?

@NumarPatru Here's me being cut and dry.

So a single guy with a history of criticizing black Africans conducting an "IQ test" on the streets of Lagos and offering a monetary incentive is a good testing strategy? Might as well use Lynn's work.

@Ed__Reynolds You think 500 years is enough time to result in a substantial evolutionary change?

@NumarPatru I'll just grant you that for the sake of the argument. Now what happened to populations on each continent for just the last 500 years. Uh oh! Spaggettios!

@Ed__Reynolds Until about 5000 years ago, there were relatively few situations in which people lived that didn’t select for higher intelligence.

@NumarPatru What ever ones don't select for higher intelligence combined with whatever ones don't punish lower intelligence. If you don't need it to survive you probably won't adapt to have it. Chimps don't have wings because they have great limbs for climbing.

@Ed__Reynolds You’re being evasive, I suspect deliberately so

@NumarPatru I did

@Ed__Reynolds What environmental pressures would make a group dumber?

@NumarPatru I'll humor your age of group point. Age been around is irrelevant by itself in isolation. It only matters when other factors are taken into account alongside the age of the group. How long has the group had to adapt in its specific environment. It could make the group dumber.

@JOttoPohl1 Same-ish. My great great great grandfather fled western Austria for Switzerland during the Napoleonic wars. My great great grandfather was born there and moved back to Austria, where my great grandfather was born.

I only exist because my great grandfather Ludwig was a draft dodger and left the Russian Empire rather than fight against Japan in 1905. Otherwise my grandfather would never have met my grandmother in the US. Sometimes good things come from refusing military service.

@Ed__Reynolds Say what you believe about race and IQ then

@NumarPatru It's your assertion that I think all Africans are the same, not my belief. I'm not going to defend your straw man. Go read my post about continents and groups within those continents and think real hard about it. It's statistics. The bell curve is undefeated.

@fjmunster @JOttoPohl1 What?

@NumarPatru @JOttoPohl1 Silence is the dog that did not bark…

Until Jews have an industry as large as the Holocaust industry devoted to denouncing the crimes of Jewish communists like Kaganovich, Yagoda, Leplevsky, Berman, etc. they can not be trusted as a group. They have no collective introspection and continue to support genocide today.

@Benjohn1762666 @JOttoPohl1 All Germans are paying reparations?

@NumarPatru @JOttoPohl1 You mean all Germans still being made to pay reparations in 2026? Lmao

@JOttoPohl1 I think that's a debatable and controversial matter. You're oversimplifying it. On one hand, Adenauer chose to do so. OTOH, I think very few people are currently holding all of Deutschtum personally responsible.

@NumarPatru Has not Germany and its citizens been held accountable for the actions of the NSDAP for 80 years now?

@JOttoPohl1 @JayBee25101269 But Mike Wallace won multiple Emmys, Peabodys, etc. And I don't think we can say it was solely because he was Jewish.

@NumarPatru @JayBee25101269 But, the last sentence is the point. It is defacto illegal in the US to claim there were ever any Jewish criminals ever in world history. Kaganovich died without ever being tried. I was permanently blacklisted from a good job in the US for criticizing Lipstadt.

@JOttoPohl1 @JayBee25101269 But you can't really elide between Morel and Dusanski, on the one hand, and Kaganovich or Berman on the other. It makes as much sense as doing so between Himmler and Hoenecker. Both criminals, both German, different motivations.

@NumarPatru @JayBee25101269 Except in the cases of Morel and Dusanski we know that not only were they acting as Jews per their own words, but the Jewish State of Israel actively harbored them solely because of their Jewish ancestry. But, sure we can add Palestine to the list of crimes.

@JOttoPohl1 @JayBee25101269 Collective responsibility is a national project for Germany and quite controversial as you're well aware. You could make a much stronger argument for this kind of thing for Israel vis-a-vis the Palestinians. But Soviet Jews weren't acting as Jews. They were acting as Soviets.

@NumarPatru @JayBee25101269 Not collective punishment, collective responsibility like the Germans have for all eternity. But, if they act like the Germans have since 1949 for fifty years regarding WWII they can get out of it.

@Ed__Reynolds So then do you reject the notion of inherently lower black IQ?

@NumarPatru I just said I don't claim they are the same as each other.

@JOttoPohl1 @JayBee25101269 So is Mike Wallace collectively responsible for Morel even though he exposed the case on 60 Minutes? Does he get a reprieve from the collective punishment you suggest?

@NumarPatru @JayBee25101269 The justification for refusing to extradite Morel was initially that the statue of limitations had run out. No other country has a statue of limitations on crimes against humanity including murder.

@JOttoPohl1 @JayBee25101269 To be fair, neither could Meyer Lansky. But in the case of Morel and Dusanski, there were real concerns about retribution vs justice. IIRC, btw, Morel and Dusanski both made aliya, which is a bit more complicated than automatic recognition of citizenship

@NumarPatru @JayBee25101269 But, the fact that Morel from Poland and Dusanski from Lithuania were considered Israeli just by virtue of Jewish ancestry is unusual even among countries with a law of return. I can't flee to Germany and be harbored by Berlin if I commit a crime in the US.

@Ed__Reynolds It's not a trap. It's a genuine question. What scientific criteria/on justifies grouping these four men within one race. I'll take it further. One of the groups from which these four people come had writing long before the other ones did. Should we expect a higher IQ?

@NumarPatru Yes. Different continents will cluster differently compared to eachother. Within a continent different groups will cluster differently compared to each other. Your gotcha trap supports my position. Every group is different. That's my point.

@JayBee25101269 @JOttoPohl1 But unsurprising and not unique to Jews/Israel. Every country fights the extradition of its own people to justice systems that it views as inherently biased or otherwise compromised.

@JOttoPohl1 Well, that’s unfortunate.

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