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If the Messianic Kingdom was meant to be understood only as a spiritual reality with no literal, physical manifestation on earth, Christ would’ve said so in Acts 1. If Gentiles in the Church had become Israel when they got saved, the Jerusalem Council would’ve said so in Acts 15.

@pbcmike98 So now, explain to me exactly why I should adopt a Platonic approach to the scripture to allegorize and spiritualize OT prophesies in order to make them about the Church when they are plainly about Israel and the children of Jacob.

@pbcmike98 And what Paul describes in I Cor. 15 isn’t “strange” if you understand that the Church is not Israel. The Tribulation is “the time of *Jacob’s* trouble,” (Jer. 30:7). It is for the purification and restoration of Israel. They are prophesied to endure it, not the Church.

“After this…,” “Then..,” “Then..,” “Then…,” Rev. 19 —> Return of Christ Rev. 20 —> Millennial Kingdom Rev. 21 & 22 —> Eternal State Amillennialism cannot withstand a plain, face-value reading of the text. It must spiritualize, & allegorize - all without biblical warrant.

@pbcmike98 And nothing but speculation on your part demonstrates that the trumpet of the Rapture is the same as the seventh trumpet of Rev. 11. Believers in the Church are promised deliverance from what happens when the trumpets of the Tribulation are blown.

@pbcmike98 And yet both I Thess. 1:10 and Rev. 3:10 promise that Christians will not face the wrath of God (which is what the Tribulation/Day of the Lord are.) The whole of the Tribulation is not Rev. 11.

@pbcmike98 Show me in the New Testament where Gentile believers are called the children of Jacob in Christ. Not brought together with Israel, but made into Israel.

@pbcmike98 Tell us all how you know the trumpet blast of the rapture is the same as the ones described later by John in Revelation. (The events of Rev. 11 do not corollate with what Paul describes in I Cor. 15).

@WarriorPrstBlog Oh please. Which trumpet blast is the rapture? The last one. You think it's before the first one. Stop being a hypocrite.

@Tolerantly_Int The answer to both is in the context provided by the preceding verses.

@WarriorPrstBlog If Rev 22 is Eternal State, can you explain verses 11 and 15?

@parousia70 @wtanksleyjr Right there in verse 5.

@WarriorPrstBlog @wtanksleyjr Where is there mention of a second resurrection? How many times does a person's need to be raised from death?

@shekenahglory So…? Further clarifying information does not constitute “reinterpretation.” The inclusion of the Gentiles into God’s people without circumcision or adherence to the Mosaic Law wasn’t spoken of by the OT prophets, either.

@WarriorPrstBlog No OT prophet spoke of a finite messianic kingdom followed by an eternal state - you have to reinterpret the OT through your interpretation of Revelation to get that understanding.

@parousia70 @wtanksleyjr Incorrect, according to the Word of God.

@WarriorPrstBlog @wtanksleyjr There is only one resurrection, with Jesus as the prótos (chief, primary, first born) resurrection.

@shekenahglory So?

@WarriorPrstBlog 2 resurrections separated by 1000 years isn’t found anywhere in the OT (or anywhere outside of this chapter of Revelation) and neither is Satan ruling the world for 2000 years after the Messiah comes.

Two resurrections separated by 1,000 years where Christ reigns. Amillennialism is a system imposed on the scriptures, not a valid conclusion derived from them.

@wtanksleyjr There’s a reason for “first” and “second” Thessalonians. You cannot read II Thess. in context without acknowledging I Thess. There are two resurrections separated by 1,000 years:

@WarriorPrstBlog "plain, face-value reading" of Revelation 19-20 all in a straight line - OK. How about a plain, face-value reading of 2 Thess 1-2 all in a straight line, putting the judgment of the wicked and the comfort of all of the righteous on the same day? You can't have both.

@jimmyblack33 @NintendoSteve Where does Jesus clearly state that the OT authors were only ever writing about Him? (Or, “by extension,” the Church?)

@WarriorPrstBlog @NintendoSteve Jesus clearly states that the OT authors were writing about Him -- so thus, by extension, His Body. :) Only one truly acknowledges the fully reigning King Jesus, now and forevermore. “The Great God Pan is Dead!” Share the Gospel so that others may live.

@NintendoSteve Yeah, the end of child mortality, animal predation and war have not been fulfilled in the Church. And they never will be, either. Because Isaiah and the prophets were not writing about the Church. Know how I know? Because the Bible tells us who they were writing to and about.

@WarriorPrstBlog The Jews thought (and still think) their straightforward reading of prophecy was what rules out Jesus as the Messiah. They thought he was supposed to send out armies to conquer the world (Zech 9). They failed to see these things were fulfilled in the church. Same for Isaiah.

@NintendoSteve We are most definitely not living in the millennial kingdom:

@NintendoSteve You would never conclude they were not meant to be chronological without presuppositional commitment. Read it plainly like John knew how to write according to basic rules of communication. And there’s a reason for “first” and “second” Thessalonians. Chronology is part of context

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