Deseret Catholic

What is a Deseret Catholic? One who has pioneer ancestors, and who loves and respects them. Who loved the Book of Mormon. Who loved his mission. Who loved the temple, and got married in it. Who became Catholic without losing his love for the LDS Church or the people of Deseret.

Christ built a temple. The Jerusalem temple is a mere shadow of it. The Jews revere their wailing wall because they think it is proof that Jesus was a fraud. For He said not one stone would stand. Jews think Jesus was the anti-Christ.

The Pope is supposed to ask for peace and if you're doing war stuff you're supposed to be like I agree I hope we have it soon.

@joelmowbray @TuckerCarlson @TCNetwork @megynkelly @MegynKellyShow 6 million is part of the holocaust creed. Any who question it are blasphemers who need to be punished. No thanks. I’m Christian. Not judeo-Christian.

🚨 EXCLUSIVE — Tucker Carlson won't say that Hitler murdered 6 million Jews. Based on my own long ago conversation with him, this isn't some weird fluke. Tucker simply doesn't believe the Nazis slaughtered six million Jews. So, is Tucker a Holocaust denier? Yesterday, Tucker said that "the Nazi government murdered... a whole bunch of Jews," but stressed that this was "in addition to a whole bunch of other people." He expressed outrage that Jewish victims of Hitler receive so much attention because they were "only... one specific ethnicity" murdered by the Nazis. Last month, Tucker told Clayton Morris, "Hitler killed a ton of people, including a ton of Jews." Despite extensive research, I could not find a single example of Tucker acknowledging the extraordinarily well-documented fact that six million Jews were exterminated in the Holocaust. Which brings me to a private conversation Tucker and I had maybe 15 years ago, one which I had written off at the time — but in hindsight, probably shouldn't have. (We've never been close, but would chat if we ran into each other.) For some reason, I think because I had just toured Yad Vashem, I mentioned to him how mind-boggling it is that the Nazis murdered six million Jews. Tucker shot me a strange look, almost incredulous. Sarcastically, I quipped, "You’re not one of those nutjobs who don't believe that six million Jews died, are you?" Instead of a jabbing back or acting indignant, Tucker responded, "I mean, whatever, Hitler killed a bunch of different people." It was awkward, enough so that I dropped it and quickly exited the conversation. I've thought about that a few times over the years, but couldn't bring myself to the idea that Tucker was any sort of a Holocaust denier. Now, though? The most charitable interpretation is that he's not bothered by people who downplay or minimize what the Nazis did specifically to the Jews. But by continually refusing to acknowledge that Hitler killed six million Jews, that at least borders on Holocaust denial. Even Megyn Kelly recognized that denying the full scope of what Hitler did to the Jews IS a form of Holocaust denial, at least before she became Tucker's self-appointed guardian. In her now-infamous show in front of a live audience last November, Megyn pressed him about why he "didn't raise" with Nick Fuentes his ongoing contention "that we’ve way overstated the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust." Tucker responded, "Buzz off!" The likelihood that Tucker, at least to some significant degree, is a Holocaust denier is reinforced by something else he said last month to Clayton Morris. He bizarrely claimed that Hitler hadn't "ever" called to "exterminate" the Jews, despite ample historical evidence that he (and Nazi leadership) had done exactly that. Even more shocking is that he said this as part of his argument that Hitler's rhetoric wasn't as extreme as — wait for it — Bibi Netanyahu's. Then, of course, there's the viral story that I broke last November regarding Tucker's warning that "calling people Nazis" could make people become like Dietrich Bonhoeffer — specifically that it was tragic that the Lutheran pastor had been involved in plotting to assassinate Hitler. During the middle of World War II and the Holocaust, to be clear. Like most people who have known Tucker — who is incredibly charming and often warm in person — it took me a very long time to realize that how dark some of his views truly are. But look again at just this partial track record: (1) refusing to state that Hitler murdered six million Jews, (2) denying that Hitler had ever called to exterminate the Jews, (3) insisting that Bibi's rhetoric is worse than Hitler’s, and (4) that attempting to assassinate Hitler during WWII was un-Christian and just wrong. Maybe any one of those could be explained away. But all of them together? Because, make no mistake, Tucker knows exactly what he's doing. That is probably what's scariest of all.

@Manhattva Evil people are ugly. The old fairy tales were accurate. Though not all ugly people are evil.

Scientific proof that people who disagree with me are ugly.

@KramersFaith @badtothebone124 I did not claim it was common or the standard. But that it was valid. Baptism by immersion was common practice in Catholicism through the Middle Ages, until about the 13th century.

@CatholicInUtah @badtothebone124 Eh, possibly. The evidence, to me, suggests that the ancient practice was immersion. You lose the symbolism of the act (Paul emphasizes that strongly). Sprinkling was never really discussed and pouring seems, at best, a practical expedient—not common form nor the standard.

Also, baptism by sprinkling water on the head three times goes back to the Apostles. The Didache was lost for centuries. It was unknown at the time of the Reformation. It was rediscovered in 1873. Total Catholic victory.

90 percent of the people attacking the pope just hate Catholics and Trump gave them the perfect excuse to say so.

@KramersFaith @badtothebone124 Baptism by immersion captures the symbolism of the act, that we die and rise with Christ. I prefer it as well. But the form of pouring is ancient. Not an innovation. And not invalid.

@badtothebone124 @CatholicInUtah And few, if any of those exceptions are merited today. I did a pretty deep dive on this last year, and it seemed like prior to 250AD, baptism was almost always contemplated as immersive. x.com/KramersFaith/s…

@EMichaelJones1 Great book. Thank you. I was wondering if there was an article focusing on the English in particular?

@CatholicInUtah Yes, read my book Logos Rising: A History of Ultimate Reality for the details. The book is available at fidelitypress.org

The president of the Spanish Bishops' Conference explains the dangers of nominalism, which reduces all categories to categories of the mind, which makes any understanding of truth, which is adaequatio mens et rest, impossible.

@ThoughtfulSaint The garden was not perfect, because man was still a mere creation of God. God intended for us to become His sons.

Question for non LDS folks. Why would God put a poison tree in the middle of his perfect garden knowing that Adam and Eve would partake? The only way out of this is to say God intended it for some higher purpose. Which implies his initial creation was not perfect but could be improved upon.

The oldest recorded prayer over the Eucharist, the sacrament of the Lord's supper. This prayer was given at the time of the Apostles.

Reading the Didache, Church document that goes back to the time of the Apostles. Second chapter starts with "don't be gay." It's no wonder the world hates Christians. They love their sin.

@9mmsmg My ancestors arrived on the Mayflower. They built this country. I am now Catholic. 500 years of rebellion has ended in me. Christ is king.

This is the Roman equivalent of "We wuz kings." It's factually so far from the truth that I don't even understand how you could post it. Catholic immigrants were looked at like Muslim refugees are now. They were considered foreign invaders. How you can be Catholic and not know this is mind-boggling. What do you think this flag was for?

@IterIntellectus Stop being gross. You come up with an imaginary scenario and condemn the Church for it. Which side of the Passion narrative currently possesses you?

The modern Catholic Church would condemn the Crusades and call them racist

I can't believe Leo XIV said this about Muslims: "Almighty God, who wishes that all should be saved and none lost, approves nothing in so much as that after loving Him one should love his fellow man, and that one should not do to others, what one does not want done to oneself. You and we owe this charity to ourselves especially because we believe in and confess one God, admittedly, in a different way, and daily praise and venerate him, the creator of the world and ruler of this world." Except he didn't. Pope St Gregory VII said this almost a thousand years ago to Al-Nasir, the Muslim king of Bijaya (present-day Algeria).

I’m sure Nero crucified St. Peter because the first Pope was entirely apolitical.

@jrmiller777 “Rock is not the rock.”

Christ alone is the rock upon which the church is built. Not Peter. Not Popes.

"Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer." — G.K. Chesterton

One of the main targets of the French Revolution was the execution of hundreds of Catholic priests and even nuns for refusing to renounce their faith Methods included shooting, mass drowning, and guillotine The Sisters of Compiègne were marched through Paris and beheaded