Shamsudeen Babatunde

So you’ve limited your God right? You are now dictating what he can or cannot do. At least, there’s still hope for you. Now you are agreeing with me. Congratulations. In the same vein, God cannot be a man or a fire. The fire was just a means to communicate just as your phone is a means to communicate. You didn’t become the phone while talking into the phone. God also does not require to be a man to know us more or forgive us. He created us after all.

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan Why are you being stupid? The answer is no to all. Just get to the point.

Most Muslims or Christians have never caught this, but it’s one of the clearest mix-ups in the Quran. Surah 28:23–27 tells a story about Moses meeting two women at a well, helping water their flocks, and then being offered marriage in exchange for working 8–10 years. Sound familiar? That’s not Moses’s story. That’s Jacob’s story, straight out of Genesis 29. Jacob meets Rachel at a well, helps water her sheep, stays with her father Laban, and works years to marry her.  But in the Quran, that entire arc gets assigned to Moses. Same setup. Same well. Same daughters. Same marriage-for-labor structure. No Laban, Rachel or Leah. Moses becomes the stand-in for Jacob’s entire journey. This isn’t poetic overlap or a creative choice, this is a full narrative transplant. A story pulled from one patriarch and reassigned to another, with no explanation, no context, and no Torah reference. For a book that claims to confirm previous scripture (Surah 2:41, 10:94), that’s not confirmation. That’s confusion. So now you have to ask: Did God forget who He gave the story to? Or was this revelation recycled? Because the Torah lays it out clearly, Jacob, Laban, the years, the deal. But the Quran blends it like it’s interchangeable. If you can’t trust the characters, how can you trust the authority of the Quran?

Exactly God is not the author of confusion. So why is the foundational framework of your religion so confusing that different Christians have different interpretations for the same beliefs? How many Gods are in the trinity? Are they the same or different Gods? Repeat your question about divorce, I don’t understand what you’re trying to say.

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan God is not a liar or a God of confusion. He does not give conflicting information about Himself or His word. Your prophet calls God a liar multiple times, in his attempt to deceive the likes of you. If you divorce your wife 3 times in Islam, what does she have to remarry you?

@scorpious_g @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan Show me the bible in the Quran. Or show me any of the chapters of the bible in the Quran. My friend, it’s not too late, worship the only true God alone and not a man-god.

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan I don’t have to be confused about anything, & you found like a poor Muslim, because even your false prophet & false god claimed to confirm my book 🤣🤣🤣. You thought you were chiding me, but you just called your god & prophet liars 🤣🤣🤦🏾‍♂️. Stop talking out of emotion. Stop it 🤦🏾‍♂️

From our discussion so far, can’t you use your thinking faculty to realize that I have read your bible. So you don’t have a standard to ascertain who is a true prophet of God or not. No wonder you guys believed Paul, no wonder I keep seeing posters of Christian pastors calling themselves prophets.

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan 🤣🤣🤣Is the only thing Muslims are able to do is lie? Don’t put words in my mouth. You can’t manipulate me into stopping teaching you how to think critically. Read the Bible, then come back with what you learn about proving one a true or false prophet. The truth’ll set you free.

No, I’m telling you that even according to your book, Paul contradicted Jesus. In the OT, God (Jesus) gave an everlasting covenant (circumcision) to Abraham and his descendants, however Paul says “If you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all” (Galatians 5:2). On whose authority did Paul said this? What does the word everlasting mean to you? Did Jesus implicitly upheld or reinterpreted circumcision? If Jesus was silent on this, isn’t Paul adding to or changing a divine law according to you? He himself was circumcised Again, the reality is that there is only one creator. We worship that creator alone. While you believe and worship a creation alongside the creator of the universe. You believe a creation is coequal with his own creator and you worship this creation. Jesus son of Mary was a mighty prophet of the creator of the universe who was sent to the children of Israel. He told you even in your book that “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God” (John 20:17), yet you worship him.

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan So, you’re referring to my book to prove your prophet true 🤨? How & where in the Bible did Paul’s message contradict Jesus? Show me. Please stop with the imam arguments. Why does your prophet speak of Jesus but you claim Muslims don’t believe we worship the same God? Why lie?

@scorpious_g @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan Bro, the reality is there’s only one creator of the universe. However, we certainly do not worship a man-god. Therefore, we don’t worship the same God.

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan …careful when you make broad claims. You never know who can prove you wrong 😊. I know a Muslim who took offence when I told him we do not worship the same God. Your prophet & book do too, so not sure what you’re talking about, when you literally point to biblical prophets.

Seems you’re new to this. Which Muslim claimed that the god of the Bible is Allah? How can Allah be the God of a corrupted book? This isn’t running, this is telling the fact. Allah revealed the Torah, Zabur (Psalms), the Injil, the Quran and revelations given to the prophets of old. No Muslim believes that your Bible is the revealed Torah and Injil. Like I said, you may choose to believe whatever you want to.

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan 🤣🤣🤣🤣Don’t run. Stand with your brothers & sisters. Stand with your prophet. Stand with your book. All those sources make the claim the God of the Bible is the god of the Quran. Not us, you. But I agree. We most certainly do not worship the same God. Thanks for admitting 😊…

The real problem is how can you claim to be literate and at the same time believe in the doctrine of trinity? You are running your mouth on someone’s post who is misrepresenting Islamic beliefs for Elon’s money so that gullible people like you will view and post the expected irrational post.

@RealShahriqKhan Honestly, there's no common sense in this religion of Islam. It's a religion that belongs to illiterates, I mean stark illiterates because illiterates can reason. How a right thinking human being can follow this kind of religion,is simply mind boggling !

When I was Muslim, I would argue that Jesus predicted Muhammad.  This worked until I actually read John 14. “...the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name…” Break it down: Helper = parakletos (Greek). This means advocate, intercessor, Spirit of truth. Not a man. Not a prophet. A Spirit. If you claim that’s Muhammad, you have to take the whole verse: Jesus says the Helper comes in His name.  So, basically, you’re saying Allah sent someone in the name of Jesus. Pause. That doesn’t prove Muhammad, that points to Christ. Jesus says this Helper would come after Him and live inside believers. Unless Muhammad is out here indwelling Christians like the Holy Spirit… it doesn’t fit. I didn’t want this to be true. It meant the Bible wasn’t corrupt, just inconvenient. So next time someone says Jesus predicted Muhammad, ask them: Did He also say that the messenger would come in His name? Because that’s what the text says. Unless Muhammad changed his name to Jesus Christ on the way out to Mecca, we are done here.

Since your god was defeated in a wrestling match, how well did he fought? Was it like Brock Lesnar or Obafemi? Was it like the legendary Rock or Undertaker? Was your god breastfed? Did he use the toilet using his hands to wade off flies? With your line of thought, can you see the kind of ridiculousness you’ve subjected your god to? سُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ عَمَّا يَصِفُونَ. “Glory be to Allah (far removed is He) from what they ascribe [to Him].”

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan ..,The one true God f Abraham, Isaac & Jacob (Israel) manifests as a burning bush before Moses, as a pillar of fire before & behind the Israelites in their time of trouble. He makes manna fall from heaven, wrestles with His creation, & yes manifests in the form of His creation!

@scorpious_g @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan Okay sir. Before I tell you about the logical implications of what you’re saying, answer this; Can your God choose to lie? Can your God choose to stop existing? Can your God become ignorant?

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan You apparently don’t, otherwise you wouldn’t be screaming “incoherent”. I’ll simplify, you’ve gone & limited God to your human understanding, dictating what He can & cannot do, while still claiming all power. WE DON’T! If He wants to come down as a pillar of fire, GLORY BE TO GOD

@scorpious_g @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan Lol. You are bothered because someone used his own language to call you what you call him with your own language😂

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan Because you people use it as an insult, same as Kafir, Kufar, which still means relatively the same. Don’t try & be smart. In future, if you really don’t wish to insult, just say unbeliever. Again, read the Bible to get the answer to that question you’ve asked 3 times now.

@scorpious_g @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan I need to know your standard first. How is this hard for you?

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan I said in reply to your earlier post, but I’ll repeat myself. That’s what you need to figure out based on the topic of conversation. You & your prophet were so comfortable believe you could say anything & be believed you never figured out what the answer was. Hint: Read the Bible

@scorpious_g @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan Again, what are your standards that will make you say that this person who is claiming to be a prophet is indeed a prophet of God.

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan Yes, you’re right. You’re catching on 😊. Now make Bob my uncle 😊. You are missing one thing though. We will need to know that the being this person was speaking to was also God, & not some tape recorded demon that has some idea about scripture!

So you are afraid that you are going to admit one way or another that the prophet is a messenger of God. Wow, this is rich. You’re still confusing your bible as revelation from God. Saying Allah is God of the Bible is like saying Allah is the God of everything that exists. Your Bible as whole is not a revelation from God. Of course there are certain aspects or messages in the Bible that I will agree with you that are from God. But no Muslim says that the Bible with you is a revelation from God.

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan Not gonna tell yah 😊. You’ve been spewing about rational & irrational this whole time. So considering the topic of conversation, you should know what would be needed to affirm that not only is Mohammed a prophet, but that the god of the Quran is the God of the Bible 😊….

@scorpious_g @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan I’m actually saying the message of your Jesus in your book. Paul contradicted some of them. You claimed Jesus sent him remember, so why would Paul preach messages that contradict some of his message?

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan …To make that claim about Paul must mean you know what the message of Jesus was without needing the Bible, & can produce the evidence.? Needless to say, they’re not the same being, & if they’re not, one’s a liar, & that is the being named allah. Contradicting what came before 🤦🏾‍♂️

@scorpious_g @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan Who made the claim that Allah is the God of the Bible? You lot confuse the Torah, Zabur, Injeel etc to the OT and Injil to the NT of Bible with you. Well, you’re allowed to believe whatever you want but no Muslim believes that.

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan 🤣🤣🤣🤣And you say you are not adding. Fine I’ll throw it back at you so you get the point. If allah is really the God of the Bible, why did he teach Mohammed to contradict the Bible? Why didn’t Moses of the Quran know the name of the God of the Bible?…

@MissArouet @scorpious_g @RealShahriqKhan I understand your core doctrine and that in of itself is incoherent and irrational.

@RealEdnut_Shams @scorpious_g @RealShahriqKhan It's not rationality. Otherwise, you would at least understand Christianity. You could still reject it if you want. No, it's a wall you've built like the Pharaoh.

@MissArouet @scorpious_g @RealShahriqKhan Yes God is the most loving and that is one of His names —Al-wadud. God is also just. No ego here, just pure rationality

First, start with the question of whether God is love. If He is love, then he became flesh. If God became flesh, Trinity is logically coherent. That's the only question. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is love. You can resist further, of course, and choose your ego instead of the truth. That's your choice. Peace be with you and God's grace.

@scorpious_g @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan I don’t know why you feel insulted by the term Mushrik. You guys consider us unbelievers too right. Again, what rational evidence, proofs do you need to ascertain that this person is indeed a prophet of God?

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan …Calling us Mishrik & insulting us, doesn’t make yours or Mohammed’s claim true, & this is a bad start, cause you’re trying to argue from silence. I don’t have to do anything. There’s nothing there so you have to prove why something needs to rightfully be there. Islam is a lie!

@scorpious_g @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan Yes, what evidence do you need from a human to prove that the person is indeed a prophet of God?

@RealEdnut_Shams @MissArouet @RealShahriqKhan …You should take your own advice about logic classes. You’re arguing silence doesn’t mean absence, but it also doesn’t mean presence, talk less of a 700 year fabrication that can’t prove its presence. You’d first need to prove Mohammed before attempting to prove reliability.!