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Devon Eriksen
Devon Eriksen@Devon_Eriksen_·
The Mailbox Test, like the breakfast test, is an excellent way to tell who you can allow to wield power in your society. Goes like this: If someone is hurt trying to destroy someone else's stuff in order to take pleasure from their pain, do you sympathize with... The aggressor because he got hurt? Or with the guy who owns the stuff, because he wasn't the aggressor? You can have people in your society who fail the Mailbox Test. That's okay... they can work at hospices, or shelters for orphaned kittens, or something. But you cannot allow them to vote, or otherwise wield political power. Because if you do, they will open the gates of the city to the enemy. I am personally tired of everyone pretending that people who enjoy ruining things for random strangers are just kewt smol beans who are only aggressive because of all the complex socioeconomic factors and lack of resources. They knew someone would be hurt by what they did. They knew that someone had done literally nothing harmful to them. And those two ideas, in combination made them feel pleasure. And they went and did it. That is the sign of a rotten soul. Defending ourselves and our property is not just a right, it's a moral obligation. Otherwise, we just kick the can down the road for someone else to deal with, someone who may not be able to defend herself. I don't care if a vandal breaks his arms trying to destroy my stuff. Because I value my stuff more than a vandal's arms. And the fact that he tried to destroy somebody else's stuff shows that he, too, values his arms less than the opportunity to hurt somebody. We cannot allow such people inside the city, and we cannot give the keys to those who would open the gates for them.
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This post is an excellent litmus test for understanding of just war theory. Despite the fact that I can see how effective this would be, I must oppose it because the damage it would do to my enemy (who bashes in my mailbox) would far outweigh the good of saving my mailbox. Its disproportionality is opposed by our duty in charity (and even justice) to watch out even for the good of our enemies. (Yes, by the way, I have had my mailbox bashed in by random vandals.)

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Citizen_Alpha
Citizen_Alpha@Citizen_Alpha·
@Devon_Eriksen_ Not caring about property damage cause it's only "stuff" is the manifestation of broken window fallacy economics. It isn't just "stuff" getting broken, it's a fraction of someone's life being destroyed and written off as unimportant by retarded criminal-defending altruists.
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Augustus Apollo
Augustus Apollo@AugustusApollo7·
@Citizen_Alpha @Devon_Eriksen_ It’s cheaper for society to pay for a mailbox than tens of thousands in medical expenses and lost wages. All healthcare costs are socialized, if they are insured it’s by other members and if they aren’t and default that loss is covered by everyone who does pay.
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Citizen_Alpha
Citizen_Alpha@Citizen_Alpha·
@AugustusApollo7 @Devon_Eriksen_ Just cause something is cheaper doesn't mean it should be the default option. If you were to rearrange your statement, it could be said "that which cheapens society is best." It's also presumptuous that people going around smashing mailboxes are employed (wages lost).
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