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East Med Badman 🏝📿 🇬🇷🇵🇸
East Med Badman 🏝📿 🇬🇷🇵🇸@DIAS·
99% of the rebuttals are just insults. Politically charged emotional reactions…no facts, just vibes lol. Western revisionism is so powerful it’s entrenched in your psyche. Being challenged triggers a fight or flight response. It’s ok, I was upset too when I found out Santa wasn’t real.
East Med Badman 🏝📿 🇬🇷🇵🇸@DIAS

People keep calling the Odyssey and ancient Greece “Western heritage” as if they emerged from a western European or even European world. But the modern “West vs East” divide did not even exist yet. Ancient Greeks did not see themselves as “westerners.” They were one civilization among many in the interconnected eastern Mediterranean world alongside Egyptians, Phoenicians, Anatolians, Cypriots, Levantines and Mesopotamians. And the evidence for this is everywhere.

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The Return of Majorian
The Return of Majorian@Alexand63575183·
@DIAS If you want an actual answer the Odyssey is part of the wider Indo-European tradition of Heroic Poetry which also includes Beowulf, the Nibelungenlied, the Aeneid, the The Mahabharata, the Táin Bó Cúailnge, etc which White people are the inheritors of.
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Harambe
Harambe@Harambe1626456·
@DIAS This is like saying Buddhism isn't integral to Eastern culture. The Odyssey and other ancient Greek writings are foundational texts in the Western world. Just because Westerners didn't make them doesn't mean they aren't deeply engrained in their cultures.
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Theo
Theo@Calvofx·
@DIAS Plato "The love of knowledge is the mark of the Greeks, while the love of money is that of the Phoenicians and the Egyptians." I think Europeans carried on that tradition better than the rest of the world.
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Ancient Philosophy🦉
Ancient Philosophy🦉@AncPhi·
@DIAS Most likely you lack the intellectual imagination to entertain positions opposed to your own.
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Anthony H
Anthony H@acurioushensman·
@DIAS Your point is technically correct. But, heritage, particularly when it's roots are ancient, are appropriated in different ways. None of these people really want to know that the Greeks almost always looked east - as that was the centre of the world.
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Ian Wessels
Ian Wessels@IanWessels2·
@DIAS Trojans were Luwians from Wilusa. Their language was related to Hittite. Greece in the Bronze Age was on the western periphery of a Near East/Anatolian world.
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J.J. Harper
J.J. Harper@creekandholler·
@DIAS The Greeks defined themselves specifically in opposition to the East, who they saw as inferior and borderline subhuman.
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GregariousTheGreat
GregariousTheGreat@GreatGregarious·
@DIAS I mean, you're right. It shared much in common with the mediteranean world. But what makes it worth remembering is what set it apart.
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Istanbulite
Istanbulite@gatenumber101·
@DIAS Your posts talk about continuity and interaction of civiliziations throughout ages which also include the greek one. And that does not mean that greeks had no impact on western world. But many retards dont get that as I see.
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Elijah McMurtrie
Elijah McMurtrie@elijahXmcm·
@DIAS These posts are written with AI. Most people are familiar with the perspective that “Greece didn’t exist in the so-called Mycenaean Greek era.” In what literary language were the Homeric epics composed, since “the evidence is all around you”
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Paolo🌹
Paolo🌹@paolosmto·
@DIAS People don’t insult you because of Western revisionism. People insult you, because you believe that Ancient Greeks not thinking of themselves as modern Westerners, means that they didn’t have any effect on how contemporary Western civilizations formed.
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Roesing Ape
Roesing Ape@roesingape·
@DIAS You're discounting the logic of thought that considers the actual present. It's like saying coffee isn't Turkish or tea isn't British or potatoes aren't Irish or Myanmar ain't Muslim. Ancient Greece isn't western because it was western, it's western because we are. Classic troll.
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offlistcommentator
offlistcommentator@offlistcomment1·
@DIAS OK, but you your whole post was a ridiculous straw man. The fact that the greeks didn't call themselves west is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the west considers itself founded upon Greece, as opposed to the other civilizations to the east.
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Jude Sebastien de St.Germain de Angulo
Jude Sebastien de St.Germain de Angulo@JudeDeAngulo·
@DIAS I wholly concur EMB- what the "west" refers to as 'heritage' is very often asian , incl/ christianity, monasticism, judaism, civilisation itself.
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Αγγουρόσπορος
Αγγουρόσπορος@aggourosporos·
@DIAS Bro, it's social media. If you wanna act like a greek that's fine, but you have no idea how is to be a greek and live with turks, you haven't even done a military service, yet you preach about what you only read but cannot understand.
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Icarus
Icarus@ikarosmyth·
@DIAS Brown turk lol
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Alexandros ICXC NIKA
Alexandros ICXC NIKA@alexandros85814·
@DIAS turks are the dumbest ppl on earth and ur posts are proof of it.😎
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Passdeutscher
Passdeutscher@passdeutsch·
@DIAS Also, the Islamic world shares the West’s core sources: Abrahamic faith + Hellenistic heritage. Furthermore, Islam partly shaped the West: Scholasticism needed Arabic Aristotle commentaries, and Avicenna supplied Thomas Aquinas' metaphysical framework.
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Rancher Steven Nephew
Rancher Steven Nephew@vibeocracy·
@DIAS That’s not even vibes It’s just little faggots lashing out bc u took away their imaginary friend
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