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Red Eagle Politics
Red Eagle Politics@RedEaglePatriot·
Young Dems hate Israel even more than they hate Nazi Germany. Old Dems are slowly following. Young Indies increasingly don’t like Israel as well. Republicans? They’ve barely moved. It’s all online noise. Like sure, the new guard GOP has been less sycophantic about their support than the old guard, which is a good thing—for both countries, even. But the ‘retard right’ isn’t meaningfully changing the views of real-life Republicans into Israel derangement. Republicans are literally more pro-Israel than they were in 2002.
Austin Padgett (LudwigNeverMises)@LudwigNverMises

Dave says “we” as in him, Fuentes and company won the debate because more Americans are now sympathetic to Palestine than Israel. But he’s frustrated because somehow that didn’t result in policy change. Maybe that’s because almost everyone who changed their mind is a Democrat. Hasan Piker won the debate, but only within his own fan base. Dem support for Israel dropped from 50% to 17%. Republican opinion hardly moved. It’s not even out of the range of recent history. In fact more republicans support Israel now than in 2002. Only 18% sympathize with Palestine. If you truly think that Israel is the single most important litmus test then you should join the democrats. I don’t mean that blithely. I’m saying logically if Israel is your number one issue then that’s what you should do. If you think that is outrageous then you should not be a single issue voter for Israel. Even if you tried as hard as you could and miraculously convinced 50% of the GOP to not merely sympathize with Palestine but to boycott the party over Israel, then all you would do is split the base and give power to the Dems. Wait a minute…

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TrustLion
TrustLion@Trust_Lion_·
@RedEaglePatriot @LudwigNverMises The retard "right" is largely populated by 2016 Bernie-supporters who cribbed MAGA aethetics for a couple years until people forgot about who they previously were. They aren't "turncoats", they're reverting back to their actual beliefs.
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Southern Mercury
Southern Mercury@GA_partisan·
@Trust_Lion_ I saw this play out 1st hand in a former friend of mine. He was a former Bernie bro that was a self-described "Nazi" from 2016-2018ish & TRS co-host. He has since regressed to race blind liberalism. In retrospect, he could never rid himself of lefty moral framing.
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TrustLion
TrustLion@Trust_Lion_·
@GA_partisan Exactly, if the baseline beliefs are unchanged, its all just aesthetic differences. Same thing with "leftists" who "become Christian".... and wind up with the same beliefs as they had in the first place.
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