Responding To The Objections Of Paul

Does anyone understand the argument?? The believers will be victorious to the day of judgement Can’t they see that all the following countries were fully Trinitarian and now they worship one God • Egypt • Syria • Turkey (formerly Asia Minor/Byzantium) • Lebanon • Jordan • Palestine • Iraq • Libya • Tunisia • Algeria • Morocco • Sudan (specifically Northern Sudan/Nubia) • Albania • Kosovo • Mauritania • Djibouti • Somalia • The Gambia • Senegal • Guinea • Mali • Niger • Chad Plus all of Europe and the US that are gradually moving to Islam What’s the dilemma again?

First, what’s with all you Muslims with oddball, possibly pedo cartoons in your profiles? Second, this is another Islamic dilemma. Your Quran promises superiority from the time of Jesus until the day of judgment, meaning continuously. Christians have believed in the death and resurrection of Jesus from His lifetime on earth until now. This is how Christians are identified. And that’s also the Christianity of Paul (as well as the Apostles). If there was a break of several hundred years of incorrect belief until the time of Muhammad, then the Quran is in error. The Christianity of the Apostles and Paul has always been - Jesus is the Som of God, He died, and He rose.

@Catholic10X @ibrycecrawford Where is the break? People who believe in One God are superior in every way

Your Allah promises to make the followers of Jesus "superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection". That means from the time of Jesus until the day of resurrection. From the time of Jesus, His followers were His Apostles. They preached that Jesus is the Son of God, died on the cross for our sins, and rose again on the third day. These same messages are still proclaimed by Christians to this day. Here's Islamic Dilemma #2 (in addition to the dilemma that confirms the prior Scriptures): - If the followers of Jesus were superior to those who did not believe in Him, as the Quran predicts, then Islam is false because its teachings deny that Jesus is the Son of God, denies His death, and denies His resurrection. - If the followers of Jesus were superior for 600 years and then were upended by an illiterate "prophet" who corrected their teachings, then Islam is still false because the Quran was in error when telling us that Jesus' followers would be superior from the time of Christ until the day of resurrection. Come up with any excuses you want, but it's clear as day.

Happy to clear the air around your made-up "Dilemma" 1- Who are the true followers of Jesus? - These are not those who attributed historically fabricated sayings to Jesus. - It is not those who changes the laws after his rise, by abolishing the law. - It is not those who fought tooth and nail with his real Apostles; James and Peter. - It is not those who can not answer simple questions about How can Jesus be God and the servant of God. - It is not those who do not know how God used single pronouns for himself all over the bible. - It is not those who concealed the knowledge God gave to Jesus. - It is the true followers of Jesus message; who knew that Jesus is the servant of God, and followed his directions. These are the Unitarians. This is me and all true Muslims. 2- Who are the rejectors of the message? - This primarily refers to those among the Children of Israel who rejected Jesus entirely, called him a liar, and tried to kill him. - It includes those who rejected his message and accepted the message of paul that contradicts Jesus message. - Even the Bible supports this distinction. Jesus says in Matthew 7:21-23: "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." 3- What is the meaning of superiority? - The term "superior" (fawq) in the Quran does not always mean political or numerical dominance; it often refers to moral and spiritual standing. - Those who follow the true message of Jesus (Unitarian Monotheism) are superior in the sight of God because they possess the truth, while those who reject it (the "disbelievers") are in error. - This line of "true followers" didn't disappear. It continued through the marginalized Unitarian sects until the coming of Prophet Muhammad, who restored the original Injil (Gospel). Muslims consider themselves the true "followers of Jesus" today because they follow the religion Jesus actually practiced: total submission to One God. ** Finally, I will give you a very clear evidence of the superiority of Jesus followers (me) over Jesus deniers (you) right now. Let us try to have a respectful discussion whether Jesus is God or not using the bible and the proofs of the bible. Only one of two things will happen: 1- You will curse and insult and deviate since you know your inferiority on the topic. 2- You will run away from the questions and the evidence and stop talking. This is the superiority of Jesus followers over his deniers to this day.

You're as delusional as that pedo-file cartooncharacter in your profile. Peter, who was the chief of the Apostles of Jesus, referred to Paul as "our beloved brother". They had a beef over the Jews, but all brothers argue. Look at the blood shed over your false prophet's successors who wanted the top spot after his death. In Acts 21, Paul visits James and other Christians in Jerusalem. James and his people "praised God" when they learned of Paul's success in spreading the Gospel to the Gentiles. In the mid 60's AD, Peter and Paul forged a bond stronger than any when they were killed for their faith in Christ by Nero. Peter was crucified upside-down, while Paul was beheaded. Jesus' Apostles Matthew and John wrote of His divine Sonship, His death, and resurrection as well, just as Paul did. Muslims (and Jews) use Paul as their scapegoat to save face when deep down they should realize they are in error. From the 1st century until the time of Muhammad, the followers of Jesus proclaimed Him as the divine Son of God, baptized in the Name of the Father/Son/Holy Spirit, preached His death/resurrection. Muhammad meets some strange spirit in a cave and suddenly wants to change things. It's clear that the followers of Jesus who were superior for the 6 centuries before Muhammad taught these things mentioned above. Where were these "unitarians"? Where was this superior church of unitarians during those 6 centuries? Yes, the followers of Jesus were superior over the Jews. They were persecuted by them, but triumphed when in 70 AD the 500 year old prophecy of Daniel came to pass when the temple was destroyed. The Jews were given 40 years from the time of Jesus' death/resurrection to accept Him and when they didn't their religion was rendered obsolete. There's a strong sign of superiority. Your Allah speaks of superiority and you want us to believe that groups not even considered Christians (unitarians) are those who are superior? John 1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  He was with God in the beginning.  Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it."

You see how funny I told you exactly what you will do and you just fell into it This is the superiority of Jesus followers above those like you who reject Christ. I do not have time to go through all of your lies and delusions. But here is one: Peter never called paul, our beloved brother. This is a lie in a pseudepigraphal book. No credible historical records of paul being killed either. However, killed or not; it does not change the fact; he is a denier of Christ like all of his followers. Now; would you like to discuss the proofs for Jesus divinity or will you curse and get mad again since us (Jesus followers) are superior to you (Jesus deniers)?

Before I respond, you wrote "No credible historical records". If you want to go there, you'll get destroyed. If you rely on experts, you will see that almost none of them affirm the "perfect preservation" of the Quran and, according to your own Muslim scholar Yasir Qadhi, they see the Hadith reliability as a joke. That would mean that what you claim to know about Muhammad would be about as reliable as what you know about that strange looking baby in your profile. I don' t have time to go into the canonicity of 2 Peter, although you can take it to the bank that it is from him, let's set it aside for the sake of argument. You still have the Apostles, including James, accepting Paul and praising God for the work that he did. We have Clement of Rome in the 1st century writing about the martyrdom of Paul, as well as plenty in the 2nd century, in addition to very strong oral tradition in Rome. We have non-Christian (in some cases anti-Christian) sources from Rome speaking of the persecution of Nero: Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the Younger. From the time of Jesus going forward, there is no dominant (superior) group claiming to follow Jesus that denied Him being the Son of God, having died on the cross, and having risen from the dead. The Christians who believed in these things have always been identified as the followers of Jesus. To prove it, God rendered the religion of the Jews obsolete. Their superiority was proven within one generation of Jesus. How are you Muslims superior as followers of Jesus? Nobody outside of your own people identify you as followers of Jesus. Take a random atheist or Jew or Buddhist or anybody and ask who follows Jesus and they will answer that Christians do. There's your superiority argument.

There is not place where James accepted paul. He ordered him to do something and tested him and Paul failed. I’m not saying Nero didn’t persecute Christians I’m saying there is no evidence that paul was martyred He could have been killed but we don’t know An atheist opinion on wether Muslims follow Jesus or not is not my reference Again; we can prove the superiority of Jesus followers now if you agree to discuss the Bible to see how Jesus is God or Not

Acts 21:17-20 "When we arrived at Jerusalem, the brothers and sisters received us warmly. The next day Paul and the rest of us went to see James, and all the elders were present.  Paul greeted them and reported in detail what God had done among the Gentiles through his ministry. When they heard this, they praised God." Clement of Rome, a successor of Peter, wrote of Paul's martyrdom. That's within 30 years of its occurrence. If you want to compare apples to apples, your most reliable Hadiths (al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim) were written 200 years after Muhammad's death. It doesn't matter about your chain of narration. We have strong oral records as well. 200 years is 200 years. If you want to doubt 30 years, you can toss 200 years in the toilet as far as reliability. I am working. I don't have time to discuss the divinity of Jesus now, but send over your "proof" of superiority. I can get back to you by tomorrow. Again, nobody outside of the Muslim world sees Muslims as the followers of Jesus. It's kind of like if I called myself the greatest basketball player ever. I can tell myself all day that I'm the best ever and maybe I'll be crazy enough to believe it, but everyone else knows it's not true. Same goes for your claim that Muslims are the "superior" followers of Jesus.

@Catholic10X @ibrycecrawford Keep one argument per tweet to maintain focus Nothing in what you shared shows that James praises paul.

Maybe that's really you in the picture. Are you a child? What don't you get? I never said that James "praised Paul". I wrote that James praised God because of what Paul had told them about his success among the Gentiles. Acts 21 shows that Paul visited JAMES and the others. It tells you right there that they praised God. What else needs to be shown to you to get you to understand things?

@Catholic10X @ibrycecrawford So your argument is that James praised God Ok I agree he praised God

He praised God for the works He (meaning God) had done through Paul's ministry. He was thankful to God for work done through Paul. In other words, Paul was carrying out the work that Jesus had entrusted to the Apostles. Paul was on the same team as the Apostles. James was happy that Paul was successfully preaching the Gospel to the Gentiles. Therefore, Paul was one of those followers of Jesus who was superior along with James and the others over those who were not true followers of Christ.